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| posted on July 14th, 2012 at 01:23 AM |
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country buggy spindles vs barndoor
Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the country buggy spindles and the barn door spindles, i know you can fit the cb ones to
beetles for height but what about the barn door ones.
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| posted on July 14th, 2012 at 06:21 AM |
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Unfortunately no. The steering arm on a Split Kombi is forged differently. aside from that the spindles are indeticle to late model Split Kombis.
I have just fitted a set of CB spindles to mine so you can see pictures of them in my build thread on the last page or so.
Here is a picture of one of my CB spindles.
And here is a picture of a Kombi spindle I just found on the net.
You can see the difference in steering arm there.
Hope this has helped you.
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| posted on July 14th, 2012 at 08:47 AM |
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Smiley, he said Barndoor, not split. Barney's have a similar but different stub assy. They are much easier to fit to a beetle front end and I believe
the same as CB with a difference in link-pin diameter.
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| posted on July 14th, 2012 at 10:33 AM |
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Barndoor spindles.
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| posted on July 14th, 2012 at 07:58 PM |
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Thanks smiley (beasty baja by the way) your thread was what got me
curious as the barnys have the steer arm up top like country buggy, but both are getting hard to find even though there was a set of cb spindles on
evilbay a couple of days ago.
So sounds like the barn ones can be fitted according to Matt
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 02:58 PM |
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This is really cool!!
I had no idea that the barndoor spindles were the same!
Looks like a pretty good option if you are able to get hold of a pair.
When I had mine rebuilt the bloke that did them made all of the link pin bushes from scratch out of bronze. So if the link pin diameter is different
in the barndoor stubs just have a set of bushes made that fit the stock internal diameter of the spindles, with the hole machined for the correct
internal diameter to suit the stock Beetle link pins.
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 03:00 PM |
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I just had a quick look on the Samba.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1292674
Freight would be a killer though, even if you only got just the spindles!!
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 04:23 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Smiley
This is really cool!!
I had no idea that the barndoor spindles were the same!
Looks like a pretty good option if you are able to get hold of a pair.
When I had mine rebuilt the bloke that did them made all of the link pin bushes from scratch out of bronze. So if the link pin diameter is different
in the barndoor stubs just have a set of bushes made that fit the stock internal diameter of the spindles, with the hole machined for the correct
internal diameter to suit the stock Beetle link pins.
Smiley
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WHY did he make everything from scratch and not just buy a kit?????? Was it cheaper????
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 05:28 PM |
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Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 05:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?
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In isle 6 next to the rocking horse shit
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 05:41 PM |
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NO idea...perhaps thats why he made them??? Ive got a couple of sets of CB spindles here so am curious.
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 06:17 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by MickH
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Smiley
This is really cool!!
I had no idea that the barndoor spindles were the same!
Looks like a pretty good option if you are able to get hold of a pair.
When I had mine rebuilt the bloke that did them made all of the link pin bushes from scratch out of bronze. So if the link pin diameter is different
in the barndoor stubs just have a set of bushes made that fit the stock internal diameter of the spindles, with the hole machined for the correct
internal diameter to suit the stock Beetle link pins.
Smiley
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WHY did he make everything from scratch and not just buy a kit?????? Was it cheaper????
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probably the same reason i had mine made? You're sure of a better quality product.
choice of know materials, instead of china something.
as well as know clearances to suit your spindles instead of a nominal size.
Quit calling rust patina
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 06:50 PM |
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Yes. For a number of the above listed reasons.
But mostly because he makes all of the bushes to suit the spindles.
And bronze is better than brass which is what comes in most kits.
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| posted on July 15th, 2012 at 06:51 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by bevelhead
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posted by 11CAB
Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?
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In isle 6 next to the rocking horse shit
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That's what I thought. When I find them I might look at getting my CB Spindles reco'd
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| posted on July 16th, 2012 at 12:23 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 11CAB
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posted by bevelhead
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Where can you buy country buggy rebuild kit?
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In isle 6 next to the rocking horse shit
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That's what I thought. When I find them I might look at getting my CB Spindles reco'd
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well there you go, thats awesome, i thought they would next to non existant, i wonder if its the same kit for cb and barn ones with everything there
or different kits?
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| posted on July 16th, 2012 at 02:56 PM |
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Well the Link pin bushes would at least be different from Barndoor to CB cause of the different diameter link pins.
We used Split Kombi seals for mine when they were being rebuilt. And I also used balljoint Kombi locking nuts to hold the bearings on the stub axles
cause they are the same thread.
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| posted on July 16th, 2012 at 03:17 PM |
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With the amount you cut off the mounting nuts you wanna hope they are holding onto enough.....
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| posted on July 16th, 2012 at 03:50 PM |
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You could try the T3 stake nuts on the spindles as they are the same thread as the bay window spindles.
RH thread only though.
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| posted on July 16th, 2012 at 04:24 PM |
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With the amount you cut off the mounting nuts you wanna hope they are holding onto enough.....
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I agree completely with you. Which is why I got another pair of nuts and only ground them down the bare minimum required. The first pair one I did I
went a little overboard 
If you didn't think I did the job properly or safely why didn't you just post in my build thread? I'm happy to except advice, especially if it is a
safety concern.
| Quote: | Originally
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You could try the T3 stake nuts on the spindles as they are the same thread as the bay window spindles.
RH thread only though.
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Thanks man. Only problem is that the CB are left and right threaded.
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| posted on July 16th, 2012 at 07:22 PM |
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Smiley,
I haven't looked at your build thread. I was emailed a picture of the mod you made and asked if it was safe to do,to which i replied no.
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| posted on July 22nd, 2012 at 05:54 PM |
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Just read an old knowing australias volkswagens book and it states that the cb used kombi trailing arms, which raises another question whether they
fit the beetle tubes or they used different bearings in the tube
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| posted on July 22nd, 2012 at 10:50 PM |
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They don't.
Country Buggies used a stock Beetle front end aside from the spindles. And they ran a steering box from the Type 3.
Have read of this site about halfway down the page under the heading 'Component Sharing'.
http://members.netro.com.au/~vwcc/cb.htm
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| posted on July 26th, 2012 at 05:03 PM |
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great little write up there, where they mention cb components it says transporter trailing arms... so they must fit the beetle front tubes
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