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| posted on October 8th, 2012 at 08:23 PM |
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Standards
I'm looking into doing a bit of research into the Standard range. I'm by no means a purist so i don't care if they have a bit of chrome here or
there, or don't have the correct spec motor/interior etc...
Lets see your standards and their stories and see how many of these are still rolling out there.
Even if you don't have one and have a story or two or know any info, like did all the early ones come out with factory painted pin striping or was it
just a dealer thing......please bare all.
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| posted on October 8th, 2012 at 09:01 PM |
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Did split kombis come out in a standard?
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| posted on October 8th, 2012 at 11:42 PM |
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I cut the one I owned into a baja in the mid eighties.....
It was a '69 model. It had no exterior chrome or dash chrome, blade bumpers were fitted so the bumper mountings were model specific. Cal style no
chrome window rubbers factory fitted. Hood lining was only in the roof section, no trim down the pillars or sides of the cabin. It was 6 volt but the
generator was 12V diameter, starter was also odd, 12V design/appearance but actually 6V. It had a glovebox door unlike earlier standards, no fuel
gauge so it had a reserve tap. Ball joint drum brake front end, swing axle rear, 1200cc engine.
A fantastic car, German built 
Richie (Burelli on here) bought his '71 std a few months ago, very similar to mine but 12 volt, has the exterior chrome but none on the dash and has
the body pressings for the C-pillar vents but no vents. Also 1200.
Stapled flat panel cardboard glove box were fitted to many early's and I think the front seats were made differently using offcut material.
The pinstripe on yours Tarin I believe to be factory German and certainly not common, especially to still be there.
There are no standard type 2's, most were in a way as they were basic as a commercial, it was the delux models that got the dress up gear. 1200 cc
busses were produced for many years.I'm sure Phill and others can add plenty more.
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 05:32 AM |
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So you'd think there should be quite a number still floating around since they went up into the 70's?
Were Standards just in Oz?
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 06:11 AM |
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Europe had the base line export models but the standard in aus was specific to here.
They made them between 62 and 67 although the 67 was renamed custom and even had the custom decklid script.
The first ones started out very basic and yes had the pin striping on the side and anything left off they could, even the steering damper.
As time went on they slowly started getting stuff back, the 64 on had the proper metal side strips and 66 on had a glovebox lid but they all had the
center only section of headliner and the coles cafeteria upholstry.
There's still a few around but they can be harder to spot as nearly all of them have chrome work fitted these days.
One of my high school teachers and his wife had 64 and a 66 standard both owned from new that were both totally unmolested, cool in an ugly sort of
way, they were in an article in the open road magazine back in the mid 90s.
They did start making standards again in 1970 as the cheaper base model bug when superbugs were released not long after the as the deluxe model up
till 75 but the 68 on ones like Matt is talking about are the Euro 1200 pov spec bugs which were never actually sold here but there are a few imported
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 06:30 AM |
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Standards were overseas but as with here I don't think the price difference was enough to entice people to have less car.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151022877197063.424799.616892062&a...
Theres a few photos of some standards that were at Action Day; also the bathurst bugs from 63 and 64 were standard models too mostly.
In '67 the standard model changed to the 'custom' and came out with chrome blade bumpers, chrome hubcaps & moulding, it also had a fuel gauge
and a glove box lid.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/67_new1300s_australian.php
if you follow the link above it has a brochure about the 'new' 1300's and shows the differences in the spec sheet
Pics of standard models in action
heres a standard 1200 doing the school run (courtesy of Club VW)
On that note club VW has some great information on their website about the standard model, not specifically but it is in the bodies of text.
http://www.clubvw.org.au/history
The one question I have about standards is whether or not they came in the full colour range for each year or if they had their own specific austerity
range of paint?
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 06:39 AM |
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Standards are very hard to find now days
Ive had 2 over the years a 63 n a 64
still have some bits from them unfortunatly they went to GOD
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 07:55 AM |
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I forgot to mention the painted silver bumpers and hubcaps and the front indicator housings which on the Euro later standards were body colour.
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 10:56 AM |
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I can only remember white, a light green and a darkish grey which I heard called "elephant grey" lol
They did look horrible.. and a look inside was worse...
terrible material on the seats... and trim...
many had the stainless trim on the sides and running boards and chromed hubcaps fitted and bumpers once bought..
the customs didn't have chromed bumpers but stainless steel bumpers and no over riders
I can remember reading that somewhere... back then.. lol
stainless must have been cheaper than chrome??
I knew the CUSTOMs were late Joel but wasn't sure when, so that is why not many of them about and many people didn't know about them .. ..
the Custom badges aren't seen on many cars now..
probably changed to Deluxe... lol
I know the standards were slightly lighter in weight but seeing them race at bathurst... they did look terrible..
anyone who had a deluxe beetle must have cringed... lol
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 11:00 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by matberry
I forgot to mention the painted silver bumpers and hubcaps and the front indicator housings which on the Euro later standards were body colour.
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I've only seen one that was at the nationals years ago..
German made 67 or 68 model from memory
but the front blinkers and 1/4 windows were same color as the car and I asked the owner about them..
He said that is what colour they were originally..
it had been restored..
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pics of Bathurst beetles brings back memories... lol
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 11:18 AM |
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Hi
My 1st Beetle was a standard.
This is another standard that my wife bought me for my 30th birthday, I had to sell it when I started doing shift work, sold it with all the rally
gear for $1000 including a Halda Twinmaster, I kept the lights. The car was originally built by Phil Lander aka AA003.
The standards were ideal for racing as there was less stuff to remove
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thanks for the pics steve, can't believe it was sold for $1000; the Halda would be worth close to that now!!
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 02:24 PM |
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nice pic of the sigma square
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 04:19 PM |
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Standards are very hard to find now days
Ive had 2 over the years a 63 n a 64
still have some bits from them unfortunatly they went to GOD
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Don't have any bumpers lying around ??
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no got a glove box window and door handles and a light cover plate
or thats all i could find
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 05:59 PM |
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The Clayton factory produced 19180 Standards ( Type 112) from 1963 until May 1968. The last Type 112 came off the production line in May 1968 when 1
vehicle was completed.
There was 16174 Standards produced to January 1966, 968 in 1966,1910 in 1967 and 128 vehicles in 1968.
The Standard was released on the Australian market on the 30th August 1962 and was priced at Pounds 799, a whole Pounds 100 cheaper than the De Luxe
Beetle at Pounds 899 and Pounds 147 cheaper than the De Luxe with factory sun roof
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no got a glove box window and door handles and a light cover plate
or thats all i could find
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PM sent.
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some interesting info and love the pics.
The pinstripe is still hanging in there in places but may have to find a hot rod free hand striper to give the places where it has dulled out a bit of
life. If you look close enough you can see some of it in this pic
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"Obey your Dreams"!
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6? coming very soon!!!!
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no got a glove box window and door handles and a light cover plate
or thats all i could find
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the light cover plate
is that what they stuck in the interior light hole??
I know they had plastic covers for the interior lamp switches..
those items would never have been sold as spare parts??
when You see what interior lights and switches cost years ago
they were really penny pinching..
That is a LOT of standards SOLD...
I never realised they were so popular..
I know its still the same car basically without the nice deluxe trimmings.. lol
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Deluxe bugs are just standards with heaps of shit that you don't need!
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Deluxe bugs are just standards with heaps of shit that you don't need!
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"Obey your Dreams"!
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the customs didn't have chromed bumpers but stainless steel bumpers and no over riders
I can remember reading that somewhere... back then.. lol
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Since no-one else has picked up on it, I must say that there were never stainless bumpers used from the factory as far as I'm aware.
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Matt, Having worked in a VW Dealership as an apprentice in 1966, I remember that the 1300 "Custom" (standard) beetle had stainless steel bumpers
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| posted on October 9th, 2012 at 08:52 PM |
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Yep aussie beetles had stainless bumpers at one stage.
Customer service is not dead in Australia.
Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools
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Crikey, never knew that, I apologise Lee....
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Here is a link to a PDF of a 64 Volkswagen Australia brochure. It has a pic of 63 standard in turquoise with the pin stripe at the end of the PDF. I
think 62 and 63 Aussie standards had the pin stripe and 64 was the first year with side chrome.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/64beetle_australia.php
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Great brochure, thanks for posting.
Love the photo's.
There was a line in it talking about standards.
It says something along the lines of,...
"If you're used to driving a car with no glove box lid or windscreen washer then you won't miss them."
Classic! I'd like to see advertisers try that one today.
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Mine is a 64 Standard. Hard to tell from the outside now, but when you look inside you realise. It already had a lot of chrome stuff on it when I got
it (as I imagine most would've over the years.
No glovebox lid, no fuel gauge (just the reserve tap), no interior light (block off panels in place, and plain red seats and door trims, with white
piping just around the outside edge. Oh and the basic headlining that just covers the roof skin.
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"If you're used to driving a car with no glove box lid or windscreen washer then you won't miss them."
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Yeah, clean windscreens are totally overated and completely unnecessary.
Anyway heres some pics of a barnfind standard someone had for sale on here a while back, although being a 67 it's actually a Custom, you can still
see the outline of the Custom badge on the decklid that has fallen off.
I saved the pics because the car is just such a time warp, a perfect example of a late unmolested standard.
You can see how some of the trim like headlight rings, indicators, handles and hubcaps were back to chrome but the smokers windows are still painted
grey.
All the token standard features like stainless blade bumpers, center headliner, Coles cafeteria upholstry, no bonnet strip, no fuel gauge, non locking
decklid T handle latch, non chrome strip window rubbers etc all still there.
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