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 MISS VDUB
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| posted on June 30th, 2008 at 07:34 PM |
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Diesel Engine Conversions
Hey Guys,
Has anyone got any info on Diesel engine conversions into a Superbug?
Cheers,
Ash
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| posted on June 30th, 2008 at 07:51 PM |
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My advice is to not do it, it's pointless. The price of diesel in Australia is silly and counteracts the efficiency advantage. But that doesn't
really answer your question 
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| posted on June 30th, 2008 at 07:58 PM |
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If you're making bio-diesel the price doesnt matter too much 
So any help would be appreciated
Cheers,
Ash
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| posted on June 30th, 2008 at 09:19 PM |
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i know the MK 5 escort 1.8 diesels fit as there was a few done while i was still in the uk, i know i have a review some where containing one,i'll try
and dig it out for u. The pug diesels fit to,they are quite small and affective.
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| posted on July 1st, 2008 at 08:43 AM |
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subaru has released a diesel in the outback model in europe this year. no mention of an oz release of the engine tho. similar dimensions to the
petrol motor.
see.... air and water do mix 
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| posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 02:04 AM |
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your dad still making that stuff ?
the golf motor is the go , get a crashed one ash ( I have placed an order for subaru diesel in Japan who knows when my man there will find one )
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| posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by DubCrazy
i know the MK 5 escort 1.8 diesels fit as there was a few done while i was still in the uk, i know i have a review some where containing one,i'll try
and dig it out for u. The pug diesels fit to,they are quite small and affective.
steff.................
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If you can find a PUG 1.6 HDi motor the car would go great. Fuel economy would be unprecedented. I have the Pug 2.0 HDi and it pushes a 1400kg wagon
along like a larger V6 would. Just a few technical hurdles though. Pugs are all fly by wire now, no throttle cable. There'd be a lot of electronics
involved and you'd need to find someone to help you with it or use an aftermarket ECU. Although most of the aftermarket ECUs are not designed for
diesel. I'd start asking a lot of questions before I spent any money. THere is a big aftermarket diesel scene growing in europe, be good to tap into
that. Harding European in Qld could probably give you some tips too.
Not impossible, but you'd be the first in Oz to do this.
P.s. Wes might be right about cost vs efficiency. 
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| posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 08:14 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by seagull
your dad still making that stuff ?
the golf motor is the go , get a crashed one ash ( I have placed an order for subaru diesel in Japan who knows when my man there will find one )
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Yeah he's making it Neil. Got his own little setup up going in the "garage mahal".
Let me know what your contacts are like for deisel motors golf or subi?
Ash x
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| posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 08:16 PM |
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i have seen a photo of a bug running a golf diesel
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| posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 08:19 PM |
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Any pics or info would be great!
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| posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 PM |
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Just about to put a Isuzu c223T diesel into a Kombi. Conversion plates are available, but the engines are over 200kg, so not good for a bug. You can
also get conversion plates for the toyota van turbo diesel engines that come in as jap imports, but $2000+. If you look hard you'll find old nissan
sd23 diesels for a couple of hundred dollars and volks conversions do a plate for these for a cheap, but not overly powerful conversion. Must agree
about the bio diesel, but I'm heading in that direction so I can tow a rather heavy boat and I'm about to get rid of my newish Merc van. The engine
was free and these things have cult following in the US and Canada in the Chev Pup, they claim up to 800 000km out of a rebuild, at my 10k a year I
should be set for a while.
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| posted on July 4th, 2008 at 04:59 AM |
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1.9 Golf (Rabbit) TDi in a baja here if it's of interest
http://vwkd.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1382
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| posted on July 4th, 2008 at 06:19 PM |
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I'd love to head in the vw tdi direction, but have you seen the price of those engines in Aus!!! You can pick up the pug engines cheap here, but the
guy in the UK that does the conversion plates refused to send downunder. I'll give it another few years and then look at the tdi again, i.e. when i've finished this damn Architecture degree!!! The isuzu won't be the
quickest thing in the world, but it will be a bit of fun to play around with. Other option is the ej20 I've got in the shed, but no ecu,air flow
metre, or loom. I should make my mind up and sell one of them before the wife starts looking through the shed
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| posted on July 6th, 2008 at 09:48 PM |
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is that a ej20 quad cam motor you have 72kombi ?
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| posted on July 6th, 2008 at 09:52 PM |
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Single cam from a '03 bugeye Impreza, about 55k on the clock had it for about two years
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| posted on July 6th, 2008 at 10:13 PM |
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Seagull, I might be interested in that Toyota superchager tho, but not for a couple of weeks if you still have it? A nice solid 1776 with an
electronic 009 in the bus ATM, the charger might help me get over the low end torquel probs I have in the Adel Hills! Then again it might just be my
shity driving habbits
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 01:27 AM |
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72 , I can not help you with the harness & ecu mate
& the charger has been sold
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 10:19 AM |
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yeah i'm also looking at a 1600 tubo deisel for my mk1.
basically rebuild a 1.6 diesel and throw a turbo on.
i think it's worth it, but that's me.
i'm not sure if it is the best option but looking into it
aaron
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 12:00 PM |
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Hey Aaron,
Have a look around on vwdiesel.net, you might rethink the idea of putting a turbo on one of our old mk1 diesel engines. Just remember the cost of
intake manifold from overseas, a turbo that is from a similar sized diesel so it spools on early enough, and I'm not %100 sure if the Aussie injector
pumps are up to a turbo, but have a look around on vwdiesel. The other problems our engines have is a lack of oil injectors to keep the pistons cool
and the heads like cracking. When I took all of this into consideration it was going to be cheaper to inport a motor from the UK. But in saying that
I've been given the old isuzu, so that will do for a bit of playing around until I can afford to go for a Tdi.
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 12:38 PM |
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thanks 72kombi. i'll start my own golf engine thread, don't want to hi-jack this one.
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 02:36 PM |
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was one on ebay that went for a starting bid of $100, complete 1.6ltr MK1 golf engine...
was bout 2 weeks ago...
didn't think anyone bought it either.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 02:54 PM |
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posted by MISS VDUB
If you're making bio-diesel the price doesnt matter too much
So any help would be appreciated
Cheers,
Ash
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servo down my way is now selling bio-diesel ,similar in price to pulp petrol
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 03:21 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pod
| Quote: | Originally
posted by MISS VDUB
If you're making bio-diesel the price doesnt matter too much
So any help would be appreciated
Cheers,
Ash
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servo down my way is now selling bio-diesel ,similar in price to pulp petrol
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I havent heard one good thing about bio-diesel
Ino that it grows algae in the fuel tank in the ground
who cares what it cost
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 03:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ian.mezz
| Quote: | Originally
posted by pod
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posted by MISS VDUB
If you're making bio-diesel the price doesnt matter too much
So any help would be appreciated
Cheers,
Ash
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servo down my way is now selling bio-diesel ,similar in price to pulp petrol
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I havent heard one good thing about bio-diesel
Ino that it grows algae in the fuel tank in the ground
who cares what it cost
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Normal diesel "grows" algae as well,biodiesel smells nicer....
tssnq.com.au
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True Mick, Bio diesel smells like a yummy BBQ. The seagulls (not you Neil) smell you coming for miles!
Thanks for the input guys, keep it coming...
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| posted on July 8th, 2008 at 08:28 PM |
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what no vote for World Peace in here todate
Ash did your dad modify the truck at all or just ado a 20% mix ?
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 72kombi
Just about to put a Isuzu c223T diesel into a Kombi. Conversion plates are available, but the engines are over 200kg, so not good for a bug. You can
also get conversion plates for the toyota van turbo diesel engines that come in as jap imports, but $2000+. If you look hard you'll find old nissan
sd23 diesels for a couple of hundred dollars and volks conversions do a plate for these for a cheap, but not overly powerful conversion. Must agree
about the bio diesel, but I'm heading in that direction so I can tow a rather heavy boat and I'm about to get rid of my newish Merc van. The engine
was free and these things have cult following in the US and Canada in the Chev Pup, they claim up to 800 000km out of a rebuild, at my 10k a year I
should be set for a while.
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dude, i want the same engine but the N/A one, just a std C223 on my bug, do you recomend it?
how bout mounting it to a std gearbox?
engine size and engine room space?
do i have to cut engine room borders?
i used it on my isuzu pickup it still kicikin nicely even after 750.000km ++
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