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steve burgess Slammed & Awesome Dubber

92 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#951810
Can someone with a 36hp please measure the length of their dip stick as i have a feeling mine is from a later model.
It is throwing oil out from the rear pulley when i push it (70mph plus) for a while.
The length is 130mm from the stop to the full mark.
Also refilling 2.5 lts. only brought it to the lower mark not the full mark.
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steve burgess Slammed & Awesome Dubber

92 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#951813
Also the height of the tube on the motor.Mine is 19 mm high .
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#951909
hi steve,
the one i have here is 133 from the full mark and 161 to the low mark.
177 to the tip

This is measured from the face of the little bell thing, not inside the bell where the tube stops.
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#951935
On my factory original 60 model:
Dipstick = 137mm from full, 161mm from low, 177 to tip.......as Dave has done, this is measured to the face of the bell top.
Tube is 19mm

On my 54 rebuilt motor:
Dipstick = 135mm, 161mm, 177 to tip.
Tube is 19mm


steve burgess Slammed & Awesome Dubber

92 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#952019
Thanks dave & craig for the info, they are the same as mine and the tube is the same length.So why is it throwing oil out at high speed.(excessive crankcase press?) It is a recon motor but has been sitting for a fair few yrs.It is supercharged by a Judson running 6-7psi max. boost.
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#952059
Steve, there is 4mm difference between one of Craigs and mine,
so I think you may be just a little over full.(also you said 2.5lt was not at the full mark)

But yes, it is possible that you may not have enough breathers on your engine,
or the sitting around has caused you some issues with your rings.

The other issue may be that because it has been "rebuilt", it may have worn bores with new rings,
or rebored cylinders that are not round.
or even a line bore that is off centre, that allows oil to escape past the pulley.

If the engine is performing well and not making noises, and not burning oil,
I would not bother looking for anything internal.
Just add some better breathers and at worst a sand seal.
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#952062
Do you have the crankcase breather plumbed on the pressure side of the supercharger?
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steve burgess Slammed & Awesome Dubber

92 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#952079
bajachris88 wrote:Do you have the crankcase breather plumbed on the pressure side of the supercharger?
I do not understand how you can have a breather on the pressure side .Can you please explain a bit more.
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steve burgess Slammed & Awesome Dubber

92 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#952083
dangerous wrote:Steve, there is 4mm difference between one of Craigs and mine,
so I think you may be just a little over full.(also you said 2.5lt was not at the full mark)

But yes, it is possible that you may not have enough breathers on your engine,
or the sitting around has caused you some issues with your rings.

The other issue may be that because it has been "rebuilt", it may have worn bores with new rings,
or rebored cylinders that are not round.
or even a line bore that is off centre, that allows oil to escape past the pulley.

If the engine is performing well and not making noises, and not burning oil,
I would not bother looking for anything internal.
Just add some better breathers and at worst a sand seal.
I think i may try running with the oil level slightly reduced and see what happens.
As to the quality of the builld ,the previous owner said it was done by Mullers and nothing was spared(cost twice amount quoted)New everthing.
Also it was a test and i would not normally drive it that hard.
Have also read the Judson should not be fitted before a motor has done some miles(can't remember where).
I will see how it goes and maybe fit a sand seal anyway
Is the pulley the same as a later model.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#952085
Pulley is a larger diameter than 40hp

I have a Berg sand seal cutter that 'can' be used with the engine assembled if you need one.
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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#952089
Steve

You should do an oil change and then re fill with 2.5 liters run for a few minutes and allow to sit then see where it comes to on the dip stick make a mark with a fine file for the new full mark you can use some drink bottles or go to Auto one they have 1 and 1/2 liter oil bottles with nice spouts for pouring into engine oil hole

Oil is cheap make sure you allow it to drain for a while before and allow to sit for 30 minutes or so after starting on level ground
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steve burgess Slammed & Awesome Dubber

92 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#952104
vw54 wrote:Steve

You should do an oil change and then re fill with 2.5 liters run for a few minutes and allow to sit then see where it comes to on the dip stick make a mark with a fine file for the new full mark you can use some drink bottles or go to Auto one they have 1 and 1/2 liter oil bottles with nice spouts for pouring into engine oil hole

Oil is cheap make sure you allow it to drain for a while before and allow to sit for 30 minutes or so after starting on level ground
I think this is what i have just done.But could have got it wrong.Will check it all again.
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steve burgess Slammed & Awesome Dubber

92 posts · joined May 2011 ·

#952165
matberry wrote:Pulley is a larger diameter than 40hp

I have a Berg sand seal cutter that 'can' be used with the engine assembled if you need one.
Thanks Mat will keep that in mind but will only do that as a last resort.
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1975 kombi camper
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