Engine number decode

jldathome Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Jun 2013 · 30 Jun 2013, 5:00 pm

#961529

Hi all - just put a deposit on a '65 that supposed to have a 1600 twin port fitted to it.

Having tried to check that it is using the engine number, I'm coming up with a blank.

OE50000095 is the number I managed to get off the block.
Having checked various sites/ forums, the closest I'm getting to is that its a 1300.

Can anyone tell me otherwise or have my dreams of outdragging my wife's Subaru gone up in a puff of smoke?

Cheers

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 30 Jun 2013, 5:15 pm

#961530

That's not a VW issued engine number, but I wouldnt worry the engine numbers are usually meaningless these days as most engines have been rebuilt several times and only tell what the engine started life as anyway.

Also most new blocks don't even come with engine numbers, so people stamp whatever on them.

If its got a single carb on it, it's not going to be even remotely quick. unless your wife drives an old 80s L series Subi then she;ll leave you in the dust.

This will help identify which manifold it has anyway

jldathome Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Jun 2013 · 30 Jun 2013, 5:23 pm

#961531

Cheers Joel - thats re-assuring. I figured there were some fat pipes in there. I'll post some pics once I hand over the rest of the cash and take delivery.

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 1 Jul 2013, 1:27 pm

#961626

jldathome wrote:Hi all - just put a deposit on a '65 that supposed to have a 1600 twin port fitted to it.

Having tried to check that it is using the engine number, I'm coming up with a blank.

OE50000095 is the number I managed to get off the block.
Having checked various sites/ forums, the closest I'm getting to is that its a 1300.

Can anyone tell me otherwise or have my dreams of outdragging my wife's Subaru gone up in a puff of smoke?

Cheers

Hi and welcome..
I hope the car is in good condition and is OK ..
I doubt You can out drag any car on the roads today .. lol

although I do with My 68 semi auto beetle with 1600 single port..

really depends on the driver of the other car.. lol

Best of luck... and that engine number is meaningless.. lol

LEE

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bugmaniaar Officially Full-On Dubber

295 posts · joined Jun 2011 · 1 Jul 2013, 4:40 pm

#961643

AHHHHH
Should have put my sun glasses on before scrolling down 😂😂

jldathome Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Jun 2013 · 8 Jul 2013, 10:36 pm

#962584

I think I must have been short-changed - compared to your pictures, I've got large chucks of engine bay missing - LOL.

Picked up the new toy Sunday after the Goldie Marathon - filled up the tank and pointed her North.

Rolled along for about 30ks at 75 mph quite happily and them PPPHHHHHTTTT.....welcome to the verge of the M1.

Armed with nothing but a 5c piece as a screwdriver - it didn't take long to call a pickup truck for the $200 'drive' home to base.

Fuel - check; clean fuel - check; coil - buggered through trying to start it on the verge; new coil - no joy, no plug spark - nada.

off with the distributor - forgetting to check the alignment marks in the process.

At last a fire - or should I say backfire... think I put the dizzy back together backwards...Tonight it turns out that indeed I had the distributor out of whack by 180 degrees, so spent an hour or so re-finding TDC and getting the dizzy back square. Up early tomorrow for a test fire to avoid waking the kids up.

God I love this car already!

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 9 Jul 2013, 6:50 am

#962600

Are you sure about the speedo accuracy?
1300s were flat out getting 75mph new let alone nearly 50years worth of PO hacks missing tinware later.

Did it just cut straight out or did you start losing power first?

jldathome Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Jun 2013 · 9 Jul 2013, 8:55 pm

#962686

Joel wrote:Are you sure about the speedo accuracy?
1300s were flat out getting 75mph new let alone nearly 50years worth of PO hacks missing tinware later.

Did it just cut straight out or did you start losing power first?

All I know is that I was in the middle lane and keeping up with the flow...at what I think was a 110 zone, so probably 70 mph rather than 75.....from the pics you've posted, I'm pretty sure that it is a 1600 (I'll post a pic shortly).

It cut out, power came back, cut out again, cycled through that a few times as I headed for the verge - I think I now understand what happened, that being that the distributor neck must have been loose where it mates to the engine case. Having fiddled around with it last night I think the rotor spindle wasn't mated properly, it jumped out, the rotor stopped spinning, no sparky, no starty..

Got it started tonight having got the distributor clamped down and the timing marks in place, which seems to confirm the theory at least.

Subject closed - hopefully!

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 10 Jul 2013, 7:38 am

#962699

Had the exact same problem with a friends bug, we were heading up the coast and hers kept intermittently cutting out.

She'd had one of those Mexican crate motors fitted (which is good chance what yours is too by the lack of an original engine number) and back then they didn't come with dissy drives installed, that may have changed now though.

When her husband fitted the dissy drive from the old motor he forgot to install the 2 shims so it wasnt meshing right with all the free play and the rotor was freewheeling every so often.

Worth checking with yours, it hasn't been indexed correctly for the twinport engine.

They were set at 2:00 rather than 12:00 like the older single ports so the condenser didnt hit the fuel pump like it is on yours.
another sign its been messed with.

bit of a mish mash engine, thats a 28pict carb off a 1200, which is bit small for a 1600 but wouldnt providing the right vacuum signal for a twin port dissy like that one either.