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snowman9 Casual Dubber

38 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#993640
What's the story with main bearings these days?

After searching a few forums, I'm reading that the quality of available bearings has taken a dive - No. 2 main is no longer steel backed! Which leaves me concerned and dismayed to say the least.

My late WD, AS41 case @ 0.50mm over, has been running the same bottom end for over 13 years (have split it to replace cam & lifters only in 2008).

I've ordered a 69mm CW crank from DPR machine and they can supply steel backed Silverline mains. My concern is that I've read else where that their No.2 steel backed shells do not have a 360° groove at the crank surface.

I'm not sure of the sizes I will require, the case may need line boring to 0.75 and the crank isn't done yet so I don't know how far under it'll be. I've found that in the past, odd sizes were sometimes difficult to source from either Tooleys or Fermans.

The set that's been running in this motor was sourced from Lionel (RIP): one gruff old bastard, but one of the nicest blokes in the VW trade I've ever had dealings with. I miss him, but I digress.

So, are steel backed Mahle items still kickin' round on our sunny shores in maybe 0.50 / 0.75mm on the case & either 0.25/0.50mm on the crank ?

Any help is much appreciated.

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#993641
Just to add, even the genuine vw main bearings (standard sized) are not all too flash either. The machine shop that checked clearances said they were quite inconsistant with their tolerances.
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#993661
Yep, RIP Lionel, he was a top bloke to deal with. 🙂

I haven't needed to use them yet, but I believe the Silverline are the ones to use if your avoiding the non-steel backed
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#993670
I have a few sets of silverline bearings with a set in my 2276 and set currently being fitted to a 2054, same issues with the bearing tolerance, a bit hit and miss.

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#993693
The set that's been running in this motor was sourced from Lionel (RIP): one gruff old bastard
Which Lionel was that

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snowman9 Casual Dubber

38 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#993782
Lionel Francis Dave, ex Fermans.

Yep, I'll do some chasing today.

Indeed Matt, I think I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than take the chance and use non - steel backed shells on No. 2. But, there's still the issue of the absence of a 360° groove on the crank side.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this ?

Thank you for your replies Gentlemen 🙂

snowman9 Casual Dubber

38 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#993871
snowman9 wrote:But, there's still the issue of the absence of a 360° groove on the crank side.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this ?
Sorry folks. Please disregard - was having a flash back to centre main bearings on Clevelands'.

Must be gettin' old 'n' doddery. WTF?