factory birth certificate

pv370 Officially Full-On Dubber

272 posts · joined Apr 2014 · 6 Aug 2016, 10:27 am

#1028767

wanted to order a birth certificate for the type 3 panelvan
but i think i read somewhere i cant get one because they were a ckd
am i wasting my time trying to contacting wolfsburg about this ?????
any help on this ?????

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 6 Aug 2016, 11:10 am

#1028771

Yes you are wasting your time.

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 · 6 Aug 2016, 12:26 pm

#1028772

ckd ?? =

want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 6 Aug 2016, 12:40 pm

#1028774

bushed wrote:ckd ?? =

ckd ?? = Assembled in Australia from parts from Germany

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Aug 2016, 7:03 pm

#1028785

CKD is short for Completely Knocked Down. Basically a car from another place, assembled somewhere else. This was to get around import tariffs (taxes) on vehicles from overseas to protect the local car manufactures. For example. A locally built Holden car of the late 60's like a Torana would have no import tariff obviously. All or most parts were made in Aus, and all labour was Aus. So for Aus companies to be able to be competitive in the market, the tariff on complete cars was introduced. So if you had a complete driving car imported such as a VW Beetle Cabriolet (convertible) then the tariff applied. For the VW sedan, they came in CKD and all of the labour was local, and many parts like glass, trim, tyres, paint were locally manufactured also. The more local component, the less import tariff applied.

Volkswagen AG (Germany) have no records or birth certificates of CKD or local Aus manufactured vehicles. It does not exist. The vehicles were treated like LEGO assembly and there are no records.

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bushed Wolfsburg Elder

3,541 posts · joined Dec 2006 · 6 Aug 2016, 7:48 pm

#1028786

well said and makes sense
happy to mock up a few CKD certs for dubbers, lol

want any vw bits old but like me, Made in Germany!!!

pv370 Officially Full-On Dubber

272 posts · joined Apr 2014 · 7 Aug 2016, 6:27 pm

#1028832

ok .......... so my original rego certificate is going to be as close as i get.......... that will have to do

thanks for the replies

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 7 Aug 2016, 8:08 pm

#1028842

The horsepower was a tax rating. I think it was something to do with bore x stroke. It would have been 17.1hp.

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds

2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 11 Aug 2016, 7:58 am

#1028934

Yes that's RAC Horsepower. It's not measured horsepower, it's calculated from the formula RAC HP = 2/5 x D squared x n, where D is cylinder bore in inches and n is number of cylinders.

Cars like the Austin 7 were named after their RAC horsepower rating.

Because the taxation figure was dependent on the bore (and not the stroke), it led to a generation of British engines with very small bore and very long stroke - the opposite of what the Americans (and VW of course) were doing.

The British government abandoned this system in the late 1940s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 11 Aug 2016, 10:23 am

#1028935

Phil74Camper wrote:The British government abandoned this system in the late 1940s.

.....and we got rid of it in the 1970s. We're not backward.😵‍💫

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂