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KalgoorlieGreg Seriously Crusin Dubber

196 posts · joined Aug 2016 ·

#1032755
Hi all,

As the title says, what upgrades can be pinched from a Super to put into a Standard? I'm getting a rusty Super as a parts car (body is beyond repair), mainly for the healthy 1600DP and a few other bits and pieces. What other things can I use to upgrade my standard (safety things) that I might not be aware of. I admit I'm pretty green to Beetles but not to cars.

Cheers, Greg.

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#1032757
off the top of my head the seats and thats it.
everything is a different size. steering wheels are different splines
possibly the brakes but I'm not sure.
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karmann141 Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#1032761
Depends on the Year of your standard Beetle.
1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV

KalgoorlieGreg Seriously Crusin Dubber

196 posts · joined Aug 2016 ·

#1032767
Mine is a 66, and I think the Super is a 73.

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#1032789
From a '73 Super?
Mine is a 9/73 so here goes.......

Seats should be twin rail so might even just slide straight in, steering column switchgear/ignition barrel/steering lock (this doesn't just bolt up though), disc brakes with wheel bearing matching and a caliper mount, interior trim (armrest bolt-holes are a bit different), the heater fan works great down the back to "push" the heated air, all the 12V stuff like mounts/globes/regulator/generator, the SSC gearbox ("L" Bug box) is the strongest Beetle box out there and you can adapt the whole IRS to the '66 if you want, the 4-stud wheels onto the 4-stud brakes that bolt up to the '66 rears, the speedo is 160kph not 140kph (mine is at least) so you won't break the damn thing with only a piddly little 1641 on the way to Leonora for the races when you're running late.........😀

Lots of stuff, have a look over when you get it next to the shed.

If it's a '74-up, then some parts are different, but not many really, you just need to be creative sometimes.

KalgoorlieGreg Seriously Crusin Dubber

196 posts · joined Aug 2016 ·

#1032802
Modnrod, if only there was a like button!

AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#1032810
modnrod wrote:From a '73 Super?
Mine is a 9/73 so here goes.......

Seats should be twin rail so might even just slide straight in, steering column switchgear/ignition barrel/steering lock (this doesn't just bolt up though), disc brakes with wheel bearing matching and a caliper mount, interior trim (armrest bolt-holes are a bit different), the heater fan works great down the back to "push" the heated air, all the 12V stuff like mounts/globes/regulator/generator, the SSC gearbox ("L" Bug box) is the strongest Beetle box out there and you can adapt the whole IRS to the '66 if you want, the 4-stud wheels onto the 4-stud brakes that bolt up to the '66 rears, the speedo is 160kph not 140kph (mine is at least) so you won't break the damn thing with only a piddly little 1641 on the way to Leonora for the races when you're running late.........😀

Lots of stuff, have a look over when you get it next to the shed.

If it's a '74-up, then some parts are different, but not many really, you just need to be creative sometimes.
Seats will not fit. '66 is the "L" shaped rail.
Brakes will not fit easily as '66 is king pin.
Speedo will not fit as '66 is flat vertical face.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

waltermitty Legend when my beer goggles are on

1,993 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#1032811
the 1600 TP ! 8)
23 windows ...8 too many!

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#1032818
AA003 wrote:Seats will not fit. '66 is the "L" shaped rail.
Brakes will not fit easily as '66 is king pin.
Speedo will not fit as '66 is flat vertical face.
Phil, the mans a welder/fabricator, I'm sure he can "adapt and overcome" most things once he sees both of them side-by-side.

Yes, even the speedo. Is it that much harder than drilling a hole in the dash for a VDO?

KalgoorlieGreg Seriously Crusin Dubber

196 posts · joined Aug 2016 ·

#1032821
Well, yeah! If I can make seat mounts for the BMW seats which the engineer is happy with, I'm sure with the right 'percussive alignment' tools, I'll make stuff fit!

karmann141 Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#1032827
Almost anything can be made to fit.

I guess what Phil means that very little is a direct fit from a Superbug to a 66 standard bug. If you're going to the trouble of fabricating new seat mounts, the last seat I would pick would be fitting Superbug seats into a 66.
1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV

modnrod Fahrvergnugen

978 posts · joined Mar 2011 ·

#1032828
Yep Phil's right. He may not have known Greg's a steel man.

I like the Super seats personally, I find most modern seats too hard over the day, but lateral support is not their strong point. I guess that's why Greg's using the BMW upgrades.