Does size really matter?

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 27 Dec 2003, 10:23 pm

#123919

Is there anywhere in here, or on the net, that I can detimine what size/type engine is in my '68 Beetle.
Sorry for the seemingly dumb question but VW mechanics are thin on the ground here in the bush.

If you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens !

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 Dec 2003, 6:30 am

#123954

Well if its a 68 and still a stock car then the engine will be a 1500 single port.

hope that helps.

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 28 Dec 2003, 12:25 pm

#124007

vw54 wrote:Well if its a 68 and still a stock car then the engine will be a 1500 single port.

hope that helps.

Thanks vw54. The running gear may be stock but the body isn't. If I could figure out how to post a pic you'd see what I mean.....convertible with a Porche body kit(?) and a VERY backyard spray job

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 Dec 2003, 7:28 pm

#124079

Like vw54 said,but its 50/50 whether its stock or not,engine number will tell you what it was 35yrs ago,who knows how many linebores,piston and cylinders,and cylinder heads its had since then.Or it might be like my 1300 when i pulled it down still running its original pistons and cylinders but totally knackered.So in conclusion its possible theoretically that its a 1300,1500,1600,1641 and you cant tell which till you pull the heads off,OR SO IVE HEARD 😀

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 Dec 2003, 7:41 pm

#124091

with a Porche body kit

Thats Porsche....

yes it could be numerious size as far as the engine is concerned.

does it have one carby ??

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 28 Dec 2003, 10:32 pm

#124139

[/quote]

Thats Porsche....

yes it could be numerious size as far as the engine is concerned.

does it have one carby ?? [/quote]
I prefer my version (Porche) a 'Porsche' is the real thing :-)...and yeah only 1 carb with original oil bath filter...an empty bath when I got it !

Lugnuts....lets assume thats it's original, what size was it meant to be way back in '68

If you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens !

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 28 Dec 2003, 10:36 pm

#124141

[/quote]

Thats Porsche....

yes it could be numerious size as far as the engine is concerned.

does it have one carby ?? [/quote]
I prefer my version (Porche) a 'Porsche' is the real thing :-)...and yeah only 1 carb with original oil bath filter...an empty bath when I got it !

Lugnuts....lets assume thats it's original, what size was it meant to be way back in '68

If you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens !

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Dec 2003, 1:41 am

#124154

As Dave said 1500 single port,whats the engine number?:o

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 29 Dec 2003, 4:54 pm

#124264

lugnuts wrote:As Dave said 1500 single port,whats the engine number?:o

Engine No.F0583489.... and just for the hell of it...VIN 118997207

If you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens !

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 29 Dec 2003, 6:05 pm

#124279

Thanks Ben...............

1300!!.......BuggerBuggerBugger

If you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens !

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 29 Dec 2003, 7:37 pm

#124293

Hehehehe
Almost the sound the car makes when its cold yeah!!!!😀

L8tr dude
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

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1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Dec 2003, 1:52 am

#124440

Ben Durie wrote:That engine case is from a 1967 1300cc.
regards
Ben

Bens right,36yrs ago it was a 1300singleport,like i said who knows what it is know,go on rip it to pieces and put us out of our misery,only jokin dude,funny thing is mine was a 1300sp for 35.8yrs and know its snot,and on a brighter note ile wager a carton of crownies that its not a 1300.This wager will self destruct at 12.01 New Years day.:P

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1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Dec 2003, 2:03 am

#124441

Dam just had a STROKE of genious,i know how you can tell if its a 1300 or 1600 without pullin everything to pieces,EASY,take it to a dyno and if it makes 33.1hp or thereabouts on (SHOOTOUT MODE) its a 1300 and its knackered,if it makes 34hp its still knackered but its a 1500 and if its got over 38hp its a 1600, EASY.:thumb

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 30 Dec 2003, 12:08 pm

#124524

Ok Grumpy
I got one problem with that.
My 1200 'Vee dynos at about 43Hp ATW.
Heheheheh!
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 30 Dec 2003, 1:16 pm

#124543

lugnuts wrote:Dam just had a STROKE of genious,i know how you can tell if its a 1300 or 1600 without pullin everything to pieces,EASY,take it to a dyno and if it makes 33.1hp or thereabouts on (SHOOTOUT MODE) its a 1300 and its knackered,if it makes 34hp its still knackered but its a 1500 and if its got over 38hp its a 1600, EASY.:thumb

Hmm, one of my other driveway blockers is an old '78 V12 Jag with a Supra 5spd,and I was a real bastard I'd stick that on the dyno and send you the results :-)

Roger.

If you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens !

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Dec 2003, 1:42 pm

#124547

tassupervee wrote:Ok Grumpy
I got one problem with that.
My 1200 'Vee dynos at about 43Hp ATW.
Heheheheh!
L8tr
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Hmmm,43hp nice, dosn't sound like its knackered either.:thumb

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 30 Dec 2003, 1:57 pm

#124552

hehehehehe
naw, thats reasonably fresh.
Its done a season of racing but I will freshen it up after new year.

We use a bog stock 36Hp carb (28PCI) so it is mostly in the heads and the cam lobe centres. Just gotta get the right combination.

Evidently, one of the guys here is getting 48 HP!! That is really big for a 12 with a standard cam!
The dyno we are all using is electromagnetically strapped and evidently close to the last word in chassis dynoes.
The operator is also well experienced and race cars are trailered from all over the state down to his tiny workshop.
So we hope we are getting meaningful results.
L8tr M8
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

70AutoStik Insano Dub Head

730 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Jan 2004, 1:49 am

#126613

Softop wrote:Thanks Ben...............

1300!!.......BuggerBuggerBugger

Don't panic - the only difference apart from the piston/cylinder set (which you'd change anyway) is the machining of the the heads, and you'd find the price of new single port (1500/1600) heads rather attractive once you added up the cost of rebuilding the old ones...

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 24 Jan 2004, 9:40 pm

#132794

for a backyard paint job doesnt look bad at all! id be happy with that if it was mine and i painted it

🙂

Softop Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 25 Jan 2004, 10:27 am

#132903

Thanks but it only looks good from a distance, feels like sandpaper 🙂
Roger.

If you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens !