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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#140985
I need to change the pushrod tube seals on my baja. do I need to remove the head to do this, or is there some secret uber nifty trick?
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#140988
Best off to remove the engine and tinware, heads off and fit new German Tubes with new German seals... pre stretch the tubes slightly

Dont buy the cheap brazialian crap or you will be doing the job in a few months time again.
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#140990
not what I wanted to hear, but thanks...

:cry:cry:cry
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Make it go faster!!

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#140999
you can get collapsible pushrod tubes, which are a lot less hassle to fit (no head removal) but they're not as good 😀 this would allow you to fit new seals but...😎
let sleeping dubs lie

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141003
yep collapsible are available but 3 or 4 times the price for a set.


While your there you can give it a decoke and fit new valve guides ( something i should have done last time ) make sure you de ridge the barrells and re lap the barrel to the heads
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#141015
and fit new exhaust valves !


Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#141024
bah! I already have the heads off now!! grrr...

oh well...

nahh, I just want to get it through rego at this stage. While it doesnt blow smoke, the bores are glazed and pitted from sitting around, and one cylinder needs flycutting as it's leaking compression on number 2.

funny thing is the valves are all sitting nice and proud, and no cracks anywhere!

I'm going to ignore all this for the moment though and jam it back together for rego, then do it all properly later on.
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#141026
I gotta say, working on a baja is soooo easy!!

no tin crap, no bootlid, no engine bay seal, no jacking the car up to extract the motor....I had the motor out in 10 minutes flat. (Had to remove it anyway to fix the shuddering clutch)
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141110
German push rod tube seals aren't all that much better... I bought some neoprene ones from Peter Richards at Valla last year. The secret with push rod tube seals, is the glue that You use. I use Aviation jointing goo, which is readily available from Repco-Auto one etc.. Even after the seals crack all the way round, they won't leak if You do it properly, I put the goo on both sides of the seals...
Seals still come off easily when needed...
years later....
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#141201
"permatex" made by loctite ppl
😉
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141239
I bought some neoprene ones from Peter Richards at Valla last year
Well Lee you purchased the CRAP ones
The seals i use dont leak and you dont have to use Permetex either.

Buy quality buy once.

[Edited on 17-2-2004 by vw54]
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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tonyg Seriously Crusin Dubber

174 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#141251
use quality contact cement.. cheaper, works fine, stays rubbery, glue inner and outer.. no leaks.. got this from an aircraft engineer who did his time on aircooled aero engines
tony g
they took me away haha, hope the medication works

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141263
my 2c

Clean clean clean

And put them on dry

Works for me

TTFN
Futue te ipsum!!!

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141271
Peter Richards doesn't sell crap....
I have bags & bags of the cheap ones.
The neoprene were expensive and feel totally different to the cheap ones.
But, using the cheap ones with Aviation jointing goo or permatex, and they will NOT leak.... the seals crack but the glue stays put...
Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141274
Actually, I bought some outside door handle seals for My beetle from ************* and they cracked day after I put them on... $14 for 2 doors...
I have just bought replacements from Mick Motors $2... and they are hard plastic not like the soft garbage..... I bought from *************....

Edited by Kruizin Kombi - No need to go there, Lee 🙂

[Edited on 18-2-2004 by KruizinKombi]
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nbturbo Veteran Volks Folk

2,171 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#141303

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#141327
can someone please delete the bitchy crap from my thread? I don't care who's aligned with what shop.
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#141362
thanks kruisin 🙂 cant believe what goes on here some times. the insulated nature of enthusiest topics I guess.
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Make it go faster!!

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141397
What blue74l and vw54 said,dont need no stinkin sealer.:P

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141445
Lee I didnt mention where or who i got the seals from ... U did.

I just said there are several qualities and buy the best. pretty simple.

Use the good ones and DONT use sealer at all

Buy once dont pay Twice.
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lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141642
:P

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#141646
:cussing
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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#141665
badge-bickerers, with all due respect STFU. Thank you.

meanwhile, back at the ranch (Johnny, disguised as a door, got his knob shot off....)......

it looks like, just to complete my irritation with this project, that one pushrod tube is split, and the oil wasn't coming from the seals at all! Might buy one collapsable tube to get it thru rego. grrr
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#141677
Just buy the screw on NOT the spring loaded type.

Best of 2 evils.
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Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#141772
i reckon it's a good excuse to get stuck into a brief upgrade.... pull the heads and use real pushrods and put better heads on 😀

and split the case and drop in a hotter cam, set of 94's (even though we know they don't last more than 200,000 miles without a hone) and a CW crank. or a stroker if you're so inclined. come on it's only half a day's work and a couple of weeks of wages 😀
let sleeping dubs lie

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#141844
bah, i'll start building that oxyboxer I always wanted 😀
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#141921
i cheated...a big gob of fuel tank repair putty did the trick 😉 :thumb

It all has to be stripped down properly once it's regoed anyway...
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#449482
vw54 wrote:While your there you can give it a decoke and fit new valve guides ( something i should have done last time ) make sure you de ridge the barrells and re lap the barrel to the heads
Can you expand on this Dave? I'm taking my heads off next week to install new pushrod tubes... Also, do you need to remove the rocker arms to take the heads off?

[ Edited on 22-1-06 by oval TOFU ]
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