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6V starter...how do you identify if it is one?

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Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#145691
I have a starter that came with a box of crap with my '68 baja.

I dont know what year it's from, but it looks ancient. its huge, and has screw on plates on the solenoid.

Someone wanted a 6V starter and I don't want to get his hopes up because I have NFI what this one is...

how do you tell without fitting it up and trying it?
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#145759
Hi

The voltage is written on them and the 6 volters have a larger spigot bearing size.

1302Steve

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#145777
The 6 volt starter has a different number of teeth to mesh with the 6 volt ring gear. 6v & 12v have different number of teeth on the ring gear. I can count the teeth on a 12 volt starter motor tomorrow, but they normally have the voltage stamped on them... The mounting holes for 6v & 12v are the same , as far as I know, back to around 1961... not sure on ovals etc...

Lee Noonan
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#145875
thanks guys. if you could count the teeth thatd be great. there is no Voltage numbering anywhere on it.
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Make it go faster!!

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#146678
well I took some pics of it, can anyone confirm what it is?
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Make it go faster!!

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#146860
That looks a hella lot like my 6v starter but im usually wrong so that would make it a 12v 😀

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#147154
Well, it IS definately, dirty & crappy looking... and OLD looking..
A 12 volt starter motor has 9 TEETH on the pinion....
I just counted them... not sure about a 6v
should be more or less - not the same though...

Lee Noonan


[Edited on 4-3-2004 by 68AutoBug]
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#147156
and it doesn't say whether its 6v or 12 volt on the strater motor...
It wouldn't have taken much to stamp a couple of extra numbers....

Lee Noonan
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#147162
36HP starter : Bosch EED 0.4/6L/4
40 HP starter : Bosch EEF 0.5/6L/1

40 HP type 2 : VW 113 911 021 B

these are 6 volt starter numbers.

this may be of some help..

Lee Noonan


[Edited on 5-3-2004 by 68AutoBug]
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#147197
what was the first year the 12 volt came out?
🙂

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#147224
thanks lee. my one there has 9 teeth so i guess that makes it a 12V.

anyone want it? otherwise the OTTO is gonna eat it.
If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#147404
The first 12 Volt Beetles sold in Australia were the New Updated 1968 Model.... In the UK, they were still selling 6v 1200cc beetles in 1968...

Most 6 volt starter motors would have been thrown away many years ago...

Lee Noonan
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Che Castro ankle straps

1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#147791
6v starters have the solenoid terminal posts at 45 deg angles. the 12v ones go straight up
Jon

twoguns simply aircooled

4,275 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#147842
secoh. that looks like a 6v starter to me. i was told you could tell the difference, as a 6v has taht plate on the terminal side. and 12v dont. here is a pic of two 6v. the top one is from pre 66.
then a 12v at the bottom.
Simply Cruzin'...

twoguns simply aircooled

4,275 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#147843
and i think a shaft on the 12v is thinner.
Simply Cruzin'...