increased air into intake ??

kombi_76er Slammed & Awesome Dubber

78 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 2 Apr 2004, 6:49 pm

#155755

if i was abe to make a hose come from the air intake from in the engine bay and bring it up to one of the side air intakes on the bus would this improve my kombis perfomance if i consider that more and cooler air improves perormance????
do you think its worth doing in other words???

and a few more questions
1. This may sound funny but is there any way a turbo can be fitted to a 76 2ltr carby kombi considering the air box is basicly sitting on the carbies and there is not a lot of room??
but it would be interesting to see if its able to be done??

2. does any one here know any thing about that hiclone fuelsaver/ performane enhancer and if it would be aplicable to kombis??

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 2 Apr 2004, 7:09 pm

#155761

Any decrease in intake air temp (with corresponding increase in air density) will result in an improvement.
However, the hose itself needs to be big enough in flow rate to not, itself, present a restriction.

With a little ingenuity and forward planning, turbochargers can be fitted to anything. Once that airbox has been removed, there will be plenty of room to position a turbo in its place.

You wont need both those carbies anyway, particularly since you will be running EFI.....:P (Tee Hee)

L8tr M8
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

modulus Veteran Volks Folk

2,009 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 2 Apr 2004, 7:15 pm

#155766

kombi_76er wrote:if i was abe to make a hose come from the air intake from in the engine bay and bring it up to one of the side air intakes on the bus would this improve my kombis perfomance if i consider that more and cooler air improves perormance????
do you think its worth doing in other words???

It'd certainly improve the air quality when crossing rivers. I've been thinking about fitting a subtle snorkel to my truck, but it's hard to be subtle and at the same time use a big enough size to avoid pressure loss, as tassupervee has pointed out.

I know nothing about "hiclone", so can't help there, sorry.

[Edited on 2-4-2004 by modulus]

Peter Hill
1975 Type 2 Double Cab
modulus.com.au

kombi_76er Slammed & Awesome Dubber

78 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 2 Apr 2004, 7:16 pm

#155767

so how much would installin EFI into the bus and compliment it with nice turbocharger set me bak ??? coz ive seriously got my eye on it im sick of rplacing points and fukin roun with all that shit

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 2 Apr 2004, 7:27 pm

#155769

You are looking at many thousands of dollars for a conversion of that magnitude dude.

I would set aside around 2000 just for ther installation of EFI and tuning and at least the same if not a heap more for a blowjob on it

L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Apr 2004, 2:50 am

#155901

Piss off your points first dude yule feel so much better.😉

kombi_76er Slammed & Awesome Dubber

78 posts · joined Oct 2003 · 3 Apr 2004, 9:55 am

#155946

yeah man souns good i better start saving then

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 3 Apr 2004, 11:28 am

#155964

pull out the 2lt and fit a holden V6 !

Che Castro ankle straps

1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 5 Apr 2004, 10:02 am

#156705

cooling the intake air too much may actually cause teh carbs to ice up - more so a problem with centremount carbs. But generally cooler air is more dense so yes it can increase performance.

a turbo isnt exactly a bolt on job either. Efi isnt easy or cheap, and it would probably cost a lot more than 2000 for anything decent.

Turbo's are really difficult and time consuming to set up - the engine also has to be setup for it as well - it is not bolt on.

Jon

tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!

1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 5 Apr 2004, 5:54 pm

#156878

Turbos difficult??? nah not at all really.
Straight bolt up to a low compression kraut if boost levels are kept to sane levels and a decent kit already made kit is found.

I have done a complete scratch setup on a 1600 pushrod Ford and also doing a TP 1600 'dub as we speak and its quite simple and straightforward so long as certain rules are adhered to. I am building this setup as a race car engine and I am not using anything in the engine that is not stock as I will be using a max boost pressure of 6 to 8 psi and pulling thru a simple HIF SU carb. Nothing trick here and the needles suitable for this are available off the shelf.
Not a job for the faint hearted but not really as difficult as perhaps you suggest, just time consuming really. The fabrication of the zorst manifolds is time consuming but not really hard.

EFI more than 2 grand? Umm, quite likely depending on how much work is undertaken by the owner really.

2 grand was an amount I pulled out of my arse as a starting point for pretty much just the bits alone.
A Microtech MT-8 + loom can be had for as little as around 1200 bucks new with a start-me-off fuel and ignition map loaded and manifold stubs with provisions for generic injectors are available from a variety of sources and this type of stuff plus fuel pumps and the like should pretty much eat the rest of the 2 grand.
If you add in someone elses labour and such then yeah absoluteyly I imagine the cost would come to "considerably" more.

However, both these jobs are quite within the capabilities of many weekend mechanics depending on how much time they wish to spend and what tools such they have available to them enabling them to save possibly thousands of dollars in labour.

Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....

crazyluke Casual Dubber

46 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 6 Apr 2004, 9:35 pm

#157605

spend the cash on a watercooled conv. it will be cheaper and go faster and wont be a ticking bomb! hide the rad underneath and noone can tell till u give it some stick!

DubCrazy Custom Title Time!

1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 6 Apr 2004, 10:06 pm

#157635

A hi-clone can be fitted to anything and it works in a stone age turbo sort of way. it basicly force's air in the top of your carbs.

Not so sure about the 23% claimed gain tho, it will help matters but would you notice it? not so sure. Its one of those things some say they work great other say they do stuff all... ..

steff...........................

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 6 Apr 2004, 10:32 pm

#157652

be wary of products that promise outrageous performance/mileage benefits. as far as I've seen, not ONE has been on the level. cold air intakes DO work, however. turbo's can shorten your head life (stay low boost), and can make your wallet very light 😀

let sleeping dubs lie