Changes coming to NSW (all states actually) modified car rules

Hi

Im building a new 1303 bug and I went to have a talk to the engineer about a few things today and he told me that there are new rules coming soon for modified cars in NSW. He advised me to write down everthing I want to do to my car and submit it to him, he will then talk to me about what I want too do, file notes, and then when the new rules come in people with 1/2 finished projects will have a period of grace to get the cars finished.

These changes might also affect other states as we are moving to national road rules etc.

1302Steve

[Edited on 11-5-2004 by Baja Wes]

two weeks left australia wide I was told to day ! buy a god in the west

Shit, I better get my finger out

interesting. I will see what I can find out. The engineer that approved my car was writting the draft of the new rules. And that was ages ago. It has taken a long time for the states to agree.

I'm interested to see which new rules did and didn't make it through. There was a good one that left you run unlimited tyre sizes providing you could prove the susp and braking was suitably modified to handle it...

well there goes my plans

I read the draft of the new National rules in Jan 1996....

I think I know who you mean by the God in the west... might ring and have a chat

Hi

This is what Im submitting


Engine:

The engine is water cooled and is from a 1998 model VW Transporter, it is 2110 cc, it carries a DJ prefix and was a European only engine and was designed to use 98 RON leaded fuel and ran 10.5:1 compression.

I have been using Autronic SMC injection on this motor in another car. Inlet manifold is standard Wasserboxer/Vanagon with a Nissan Skyline throttle body and 410 cc VW Type 3 TLE injectors and a Bosch blow off valve from a Saab turbo is also fitted and is plumbed back into air filter neck.

Exhaust is a 4 into 1 extractor, 1.5-inch pipes and a 3-inch system all the way to the tailpipe and was ceramic coated by Competition Coatings in Sydney; the muffler is a Hooker Headers Aero chamber.

The turbo is an IHI RHB6 Turbo with a water to air intercooler made by Dave Stocker from LMS Engineering, a Grooco agricultural pump moves the cooling water for the intercooler to a heater core in front of the radiator.

In fitting the cooling system all of the standard Kombi cooling parts were squeezed into the rear of the car and the water is pumped to the front via 1.5 inch stainless steel tubes mounted under the floor pan. A modified alloy Ford Transit van radiator and Davies Craig thermo fan are used for cooling, the spare wheel well has been removed to allow the radiator to fit. Cool air is brought into the radiator through a factory air conditioned louvered front apron. The motor uses the same bell housing mounting as a Beetle, so no adaptors were needed.

I would like to also explore the option of fitting a 2 litre WRX motor in the future.

Rear suspension:

The rear suspension is from a 944 Porsche, it uses similar trailing arms to a beetle but they are reinforced and when used in conjunction with Porsche 944 spring plates they have adjustable height, toe and camber. the mounting points are the same as on a Beetle as they are on the Porsche 944.

The rear shocks are Koni Sports.

Whiteline sway bar on the rear has adjustable stiffness.

Front suspension:

The front McPherson struts have been shortened 4 inches to allow the fitting of Mazda RX7 Koni Sports shocks. The front struts also feature adjustable lower spring platforms, smaller diameter 150 — pound springs allow the front wheels to have sufficient clearance, these were supplied by Vintage VeeDub Supplies in Campsie.

Rack and pinion steering from 1975 L Beetle has been fitted, it only required some captive nuts to be fitted to the lower body in the factory location and the chassis to be dimpled to clear the rack.

The front sway bar was made by Whiteline and has adjustable caster.

The tie rods on the stub axles have been flipped to eliminate bump steer.

Brakes:

The front brakes use a Beetle rotor with braking surface removed, so it is now a bearing hub. The beetle rotor that was used came with a 5 x 130 mm Porsche stud pattern. At the back of the Beetle rotor, a 911 Porsche Turbo rotor has been bolted in the same manner as the Porsche part is fitted by Porsche axle hub, a thin aluminium spacer is sandwiched between the rear face of the bearing hub and the front face of the Porsche rotor to give correct positioning of the rotor in relation to the calliper. The ventilated Porsche rotor is 282 mm in diameter and is 20 mm thick, the stock solid Beetle rotor was 278 mm diameter and 9.5 mm thick. The stock calliper mounting ears have been removed from the stub axle, the 3 dust cover mounting holes have been enlarged to M 10, this replicates a stock VW factory drum brake stub axle mounting points. A custom made calliper bracket has been made from 6010 aluminium by Dave Stocker at LMS Engineering in Campbelltown (02 4625 4244), this attaches to the stub axle via 3 M 10 bolts. The callipers are fitted to these brackets in the usual fashion. Callipers are 4 piston and are from the rear of a 996 Porsche.

The rear brakes use Porsche 944 rotors with the stock Porsche drum emergency brakes. The Porsche 944 rear brakes would have widened the track considerably, so billet drive flanges were made by Dave Stocker at LMS Engineering in Campbelltown (02 4625 4244) to reduce the track increase. The 4 piston Porsche Monoblock Boxster rear callipers attach to the factory Porsche calliper mounting via a 6010 aluminium square block adaptor. This was made necessary because the Porsche 944 uses axial calliper bolt mounting whilst the Boxster calliper uses radial calliper bolt mounting.

Wheels:

The front wheels are 8 x 17 and the rear are 9 x 17, both are 3 piece Porsche replicas. The wheels use a Porsche bolt pattern which is 5 x 130 mm, the Beetle came originally with 4 x 130 mm bolt pattern.

Body:

1973 L model 1600 Beetle. The spare wheel well has been removed to allow the radiator to fit. Original heater channels were retained and warm air is directed through them to the demister and heater from a Toyota troop carrier heater core under the rear seat to the interior via an early Audi 100 brake cooling fan.

I would like to fit a single large windscreen wiper with a pantograph so that it wipes the corner of the windscreen.

I also would like to invert the luggage area behind the rear seat, this would give me more room to fit motor accessories.

Il would also like to fit some air scoops in the rear 1/4 panel to bring air into motor.


Chassis:

Chassis is from a 1972 Superbug. To get better weight distribution I would like to move the transmission & motor forward 4 inches, this would also give me extra room to fit a WRX motor in the future. To achieve this it will be necessary to cut the middle out of the centre of the torsion bar housing so that the nose cone of the transmission can go further forward. The torsion bar housing would need to be reinforced above & below where it is cut.

I estimate the finished weight of the vehicle will be between 980 & 1010 kgs.

Steve, good work! You may need to remanufacture the alloy bits in the braking system from steel

VWCOOL wrote:Steve, good work! You may need to remanufacture the alloy bits in the braking system from steel

I doubt it. The stock XF falcon caliper bracket is aluminium.

Steve,

Any idea what the changes might be? Engine size/brakes etc.

I'm putting NA 944 rears on my 61 Karmann on a 68 IRS chassis, and 944S2 brakes and rotors on the front with a bearing spacer and new steel caliper mount onto CB dropped spindles. I'm also putting widended guards on there too.

I'm trying to use as much of the Porsche brake/hub systems as possible so that I can run spacers (as they were factory items on Porsche hubs), but only if I really need to.

Cheers

Steve

Baja Wes wrote:

VWCOOL wrote:Steve, good work! You may need to remanufacture the alloy bits in the braking system from steel

I doubt it. The stock XF falcon caliper bracket is aluminium.

Yeah, but aftermarket stuff doesn't have fatigue etc testing done for type approval. Many engineers I know - including, I'm pretty sure, the one Steve is talking to - insist on steel. Just something to keep in mind...

Hi

Im waiting for an appointment with engineer, I hope to learn more then. Leigh called the RTA today and they said there wasnt that much to worry about, the major changes were with the engineer themselves with how they go about doing their reports.

1302Steve

The new rules should be supplied by DOTARS, as they currently supply the "National code of practice for heavy vehicle modification", and also the "Street Rod" rules.

The new rules should be called the "National code of practice for light vehicle modification".

For now you can keep checking the DOTARS website and see if it magically appears;
http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/index.htm

The link above will also let you download the complete "Street Rod" rules and read them (the new street rod rules, dated 1/12/2003). I must say they are quite interesting. Especially this paragraph;

Street Rod: The definition of a Street Rod used in this document is the same as that which appears in the Australian Vehicle Standards Rules, i.e.:

“A Street Rod shall mean a vehicle that has a body and frame that were built before 1949, that has been modified for safe road use, or a replica of a vehicle the body and frame of which were built before 1949.”

Note that vehicles manufactured in 1949 or later that are carry over models of a vehicle model manufactured prior to 1949, eg Ford Anglia, are included in the Street Rod classification.

A Street Rod must therefore have a separate body and chassis, both of which are of pre-1949 manufacture, or may be recently built replicas of the chassis and body of a pre-1949 vehicle.

You could argue a VW beetle is a carry over model of a vehicle manufactured prior to 1949, and there for is a street rod. Now that would be interesting...

Oh, and another interesting quote from the new street rod rules;

This document has been adopted by the Australian Motor Vehicle Certification Board Working Party (AMVCB WP) as the nationally accepted Guidelines for the construction and modification of Street Rods in Australia. These Guidelines form an integral part of the “National Code of Practice for the Modification of Light Vehicles”. The national code of practice is a major project currently being undertaken by the AMVCB WP.

[Edited on 5-5-2004 by Baja Wes]

Hmm good stuff Wes - looks like I will be doing some heavy researching homework in the next few weeks!

Well I have seen at least one Beetle with a front mount V8 that is regoed under the LH9 street rod section so Obviously it can be done. But there would be a lot of engineering ect that would have to go into it.

Although a VW will meet the letter of the guidelines I doubt many clubs will allow it as it doesn't meet the spirit of the street rod rego scheme.

The biggest thing was dropping of the "American Origin" ffromthe pre 49 criteria a few years ago...

Baja Wes wrote:You could argue a VW beetle is a carry over model of a vehicle manufactured prior to 1949, and there for is a street rod. Now that would be interesting...

Would that count for New Beetles too?

1302Steve wrote:Shit, I better get my finger out

yep before more cracks appear in your current car !!!!:P

Hi

If you wanted to get around the street rod club not wanting you you could start your own club, but the Street Rod federation might not let you join.

2 V8 bugs that I know of are mounted on 1930 chassis to get around the rules.

1302Steve

It's not really the spirit of Street Rod rego...

Yeh I believe that they should have left the rules as they were for the Hot Rods and just started a seperate section for street machines. It has taken the hot rodders a lot of time, effort and money to get to where they can engineer and pass their cars through to rego. It is a bit funny in a way as when my projects are finally finished I will have a buggy with about 200HP wich weighs about 800kgs and a Tbucket with around 500 Hp which weighs around the same and they will both be fully legal

Ok, so I finally pulled my finger out, and rang my contact.

He is currently preparing the latest draft edition of the new code, and if he doesn't get interupted too much he will have it out for comment in a few weeks.

So the rumours aren't quite right. The draft is coming in a few weeks, not the final version.

He thinks the final version would be more likely around the end of the year if all the states agree (an ongoing problem from what I understand).

Anyway, I asked him if there is any rules that I'd like. He said they've managed to change the engine size ruling. It no longer splits up into chassis types and number of cylinders.

For 800-1100kg cars the maximum engine sizes shall be;
* Naturally Aspirated = 4 x vehicle weight
* Turbo/Supercharged = 3 x vehicle weight

That will open the options for VW people up a little more. It will make the EJ20T a much more clean cut yes. It will mean I could turbo/supercharge my current engine. It will mean we could see VG30DETT type 3's.

Are there any changes that will negatively affect us

In particular Buggies and Bajas?

Baja Wes wrote:Anyway, I asked him if there is any rules that I'd like. He said they've managed to change the engine size ruling. It no longer splits up into chassis types and number of cylinders.

For 800-1100kg cars the maximum engine sizes shall be;
* Naturally Aspirated = 4 x vehicle weight
* Turbo/Supercharged = 3 x vehicle weight

What about for less than 800kg cars? Like early beetles?

[Edited on 11-5-2004 by MikeM]

here in tassie there doesn't seem to be any rule about "street rod" rego, because you can get "special interest" rego without being forced to be a member of any club or association!, just a vehicle older than 30 years, you have to fill out a log book.
Thats how I figure it anyway.
cheers

MikeM wrote:What about for less than 800kg cars? Like early beetles?

Dunno, didn't ask. He's a busy man so I won't bother him again.

I think most changes are for the better.

Hi

Thanks Wes. Thats intresting, I could go
890 kg
x 4
= 3560 cc NA
or
890 kg
x 3
= 2670 cc forced induction

Cool, get a 2.5 STI from the states.

Twobus, the rules you spoke off are some of the one that will need to change for a National system

1302Steve

Fark... that sounds good! I mean the engine displacement thing if it does turn out that way. Really opens up lots of possibilites 🙂

I think you could get over the 800kg thing by swapping onto a late pan, also get IRS etc.

Hi

Wes didnt say but I would assume that it goes on stock weight for the car from the factory.

1302Steve

For the purposes of weight, I would assume that (in my case anyhow) that a 56 body on a 70 chassis allows you to assume the weight of a 70's car from the factory??

I can see a 2332 coming up

hehehe
:thumb

hehe, also I think a Semi-auto may have weighed more from the factory 🙂 with a light early body, should be shweeet 🙂 god bless the floorpan 🙂

1302Steve wrote:Hi


Cool, get a 2.5 STI from the states.

1302Steve

I can get you brand new Sti motors if you want one, around $7k still in box !!

Cheers

Interesting, how complete are they?

1302Steve wrote:Interesting, how complete are they?

{ADMIN - please note the 1.7 factor is a sports sedan multiplier to get the equivalent capacity of a turbo motor. It does not apply to road legal vehicles}

[Edited on 21-5-2004 by Baja Wes]

Maybe We should all move to Tassie.....

Just to get the cars passed that is...

Lee

Hi

Is that you John? Lirking with a girls names. I was told to just bight the bullet and go STI. Do you have solids in your car? The RTA rules at the moment is 2.5 x 890 (factory weight) = 2225
cc

1302Steve

[Edited on 19-5-2004 by 1302Steve]

gayanne, I'm still not sure what your trying to say, but I am sure it is off-topic.

We're talking about the mod rules here. I have deleted the confusing off-topic posts in order to keep this post clean (no offense intended). I just think this post is important and should stay relatively short and concise.

Feel free to start a new post and say what you were trying to say. :thumb

Is it true that the new rules mean people building buggies/Eurekas (ICV's) can only use a motor that is no more than 5 years old, and that motor has to come from an Australian sold car, not a grey import???? 🙁

[Edited on 2-6-2004 by Jenny]

I'm pretty sure a eureka or a buggy with still fit under the modified production car rules, usually as a rebodied vehicle. So it would have the same rules as a beetle. That's my understanding.

making it an ICV would be overkill. If you did go down that path it would also mean you could put any engine you want in it. Any size. using a late Australian engine just means it automatically qualifies as meeting the latest emissions standards. Most late US engines will also automatically qualify cos they are more stringent than us. If you use an old engine, or a jap engine, then you would probably need to have it emissions tested. Currently the test is difficult and expensive to do. They are trying to agree on a simpler and cheaper emissions test for the future.

Regards rebodied vehicles, Yeah that's what I thought then i read that if you re-body so that the vehicle no longer resembles the original vehicle (as in the case with buggy/Eureka because they nolonger resemble a Beetle) then it is classed as an ICV.

best bet would be to talk to Mike Sharp. His GS Limo buggies (and the max FX buggies) are simply rebodied vehicles. The new body must meet certain current ADRs so he has wierd things like seat belt warning lights (or something weird), but they still use VW motors and running gear.

A buggy certainly doesn't look like a beetle.

Check this webpage of his for more info;
http://www.sharpbuilt.com.au/longwheelbasebuggygen.htm

Hey guys this is a great thread 🙂
I wonder what difference this will make here in SA. Transport SA have so far always seemed to be in the dark ages, if you know what I mean.
Do any of you have any thought or comments on what this will mean for vehicles like my 1990 Caravelle Syncro?
Any thoughts much appreciated.
Andy.

[Edited on 26-6-2004 by type2nut]

hmmm thats an interesting point being made about the street rods for only pre 1949 cars, like matt said it will make things very difficult if someone was to stretch things...:repuke

Hi
I was wondering if you guys could tell me where i can get some rules and regulations on modifying cars in NSW as i'm just starting to build my 68 and it will be fairly modified
can anyone recommend a good engineer
info would be much appreciated

sean

[Edited on 22-11-2004 by sean68]

have a look at this;

http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=31756

What the, gee that takes it in the head. I think I'll stick to my bolt on mods for now.

Even though the road rules are changing everywhere, can we still legally register new buggies?

If comments in this post are correct then we only have up to August this year...
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=34526&page=1#pid340501

I wouldnt be getting to excited about the new registration rules that are suppose to be coming. A similar thing happened in the mid 90's when someone thought it was a good idea to have uniform road rules for all of Australia, hence the introduction of the AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES (Act).

The thing was other states, such as NSW found that the Australian Road Rules did not totally suit NSWelshmen, so they introduced a whole heap of other legitation that better suited them, hence the introduction of other new Acts and Regulations such as the Road Transport Act. This piece of legislationis is responsible for vehicle registration (1997 & 1998), road rules (1999) driver licencing (1999 & 99), driver fatigue (1999), heavy vehicles (1996) the list goes on. There is basicaly thousands of new laws, procedures etc that were introduced to better suit NSW roads/drviers, and as you can see by the dates (year), it continualy changed.

The point Im trying to make is, even though there might be new national rules being written up to be introduced in relation to registration etc, the states may still re write the rules to suit themselves (Which they have the power to do), as happened in the late 90's. I really do hope there is uniformity in regards to these rules nationally.

Just food for thought.

Guys, I have good news for those making buggies or rebodying there vehicles. I talked to mike sharp about this issue, and he clarified it for me. (Mike Sharp is the owner and fellow worker for Sharp Built Australian Buggies). He has had his customers register their vehicles all over Australia. 7 buggies in fact all around the nation, INCLUDING NSW.

Heres the reply email he sent me. (it may be a bit jumbled, as my questions and his anwers are mixed in there).

Hey,

I have heard numeous opinions about the RTA in NSW changing their rules about modified vehicles. That is, they say that from June of 2005 or something, they will no longer let any modified vehicle (which has never been registered before) get registered. Also, they also state that it is highly probable that this rule will flow into Queensland.


This ruling came in the end of 1999 for ICVs (Indevidually Constructed Vechles)











that is why I developed the long wheel base GS Limo that year that fits onto a standard chassis and
is not classed as an ICV and can get registered anywhere in Australia

No you cannot register an existing short wheel base buggy that has never been









registered befor as a buggy, this rule came in the end of 1999 not unless it has an engine fitted from 2004 March
onwards with all factory emission controls fitted

The last new GS Limo buggy I was involved with getting registered was a few weeks ago in












Queensland and one befor that in Sydney NSW at christmax and about 6 -7 befor that in the last 3 years
there are at least 1/2 dozon on the go at the moment, I am builing up 4 complete buggies for customers as well

As I have stated this rule came in the end of 1999 concerning ICVs












This information is on my website

NEW LONG WHEELBASE BUGGY GENERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR REGO

GENERAL
A NEW LONG WHEEL BASE buggy build has to comply to the currant ADRs covering 'A re-bodied vehicle'. The new body has to comply to the current ADRs as of time of inspection, the chassis, engine and running gear only has to comply to the year of the manufacture of the chassis. e.g. 1970.
A long wheel base buggy is NOT classed as an ' Individually constructed vehicle '.

A NEW SHORT WHEEL BASE buggy build with a shortened chassis is classed as an 'Individually constructed vehicle' the same as any other kit car, to get it approved it must comply to the currant ADRs including engine smog control and noise.
To meet this ADR the engine must be 'less' than 1 years old, fuel injected and the engine controlled by an engine management system to control emissions, just like a brand new car has. No VW aircooled motor will meet this ADR.

This information was stated by numerous individuals at www.aussieveedubbers.com. These individuals where highly-experienced vw enthusiasts. These possible rule changes where discussed between one of these individuals and an engineer who is qualified within the certification of modified vehicles.


Ask these highly-experienced vw enthusiasts the last time they










registered a brand new buggy and if they have how many in the last 3 years, also ask how
many seperate ADRs there buggy had to meet, the ansew is 22 diffrent ADRs
a buggy has to meet to be legally registered . if you come to Toowoomba I can
show you the paper work on this

Some guys go to 'bodgy' engineers to get there buggy approved becouse








they know a reputable engineer will not pass it ot touch it with a barge poll


Also, there have been other notices from other offroad and buggy enthusiasts.


Again Ask these offroad vw enthusiasts the last time they






registered a brand new buggy

This concerns me. If I were to purchase a kit, and this rule is brought forward, I will not be able to register it on the road. Therefore, rather than modifying a vw Beetle into a buggy, could I legally get a buggy by purchasing it as a TURN KEY from the manufacturer (YOU) with the abillity to register it (Or would it still be classed as a modified vehicle)?

I suppose there may be a chance that in this turn key situation, it may not be classed as a modification as no backyard joe blow has modified it, rather it has been professionally CONSTRUCTED, NOT MODIFIED by Sharpbuilt into a whole new vehicle.


If you build the buggy with my parts they will meet the ADR requirements








Is the rumour even true?

How much would it cost to purchase a turn key of the buggy I previously described in the earlier emails? (the white metallic one with the blue interior). Price in other e-mail



Thanks Mike.
From Chris (mynameischris88@hotmail.com)


Regards Mike Sharp

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This message should clarify any crap or rumours and prove that if you are gonna rebody a vehicle (without shortening or modifying the chassis/floorpan), you only need your body of your vehicle to comply to Australian ADR standards. Look on www.sharpbuilt.com.au to see the ADR rules and Rego info on Mike's Website to clarify the Australian Design Rules and Legal Blah! Blah!.

OK, so enjoy.

Chris.

If ur gonna modify your chassis, then it is classed as an individually constructed vehicle (or something like that). You can still get it registered, however, it must comply to the legal chassis requirements of today. Which an be hard for an original VW aircooled engine (when it comes to noise and emissions tests). Thats your only problem. (Unless your willing to change the engine)

So, there is nothing too concerning to worry about.

NOTE: Changing the engine, running gear (like gearbox, getting IRS, getting disc brake conversions, ball joint conversions etc. is not classed as modifying the chassis. The term "modifying the chassis" literally means modifying the chassis. You can change/modify your running gear, and your chassis will still not be classed as modified.

Modification of the chassis is literally hacking it to shorted it. (Cutting the steel of the chassis etc.) Putting bolts, adding or swapping parts is not modifying the chassis.

REMEMBER THAT. With this in mind, your dream vw is still possible to create and register.

By 7 buggies in the previous post, im refering to 7 in the PAST MONTH.

bat69 wrote:The point Im trying to make .

....Is seriously quite boring. Take the text and place it within the backdoor confines.


Just jokes old man.

How about a name ******** thats just wrong !

:alien ... Its six pointed star not eight! Lets take it to the 'Bad Attitude' forum 'Seagull'.

sean68 wrote:Hi
can anyone recommend a good engineer
info would be much appreciated

sean

[Edited on 22-11-2004 by sean68]

Sean, try Consulmotive in Peakhurst - (02) 91530011

There a reputable bunch, and dont hold out there hand before giving advice, unlike some.

****** / Ramallzee,

that sounds like somthing a commodore driver would say:vader

peace:jesus

...and I wont describe what an abundance of legislation knowledge 'sounds' like to me :P

I agree on two things you say though - a uniformity of road rules is overdue.

....And commodore drivers are a very intelligent bunch. Thanks for the compliment.

bat69 wrote:****** / Ramallzee,

that sounds like somthing a commodore driver would say:vader

peace:jesus

Nah, Hyundai driver more like it !!!! hehehehehehehe

😉

those cars are just plastic hunks of crap on wheels.

mynameischris88 wrote:those cars are just plastic hunks of crap on wheels.

Plastic crap, now that's something I would like to see !!!!


😉

you can use alloy as brake brackets as long as its graded at T6 .

Hi Malcom

Thanks for that.

Steve

jam national uniformity, it probably wont happen as states are soverign to the commonwealth and unless they agree the feds are wasting more of mine and your hard earnt tax dollars..
theiven bastards..

mynameischris88 wrote:those cars are just plastic hunks of crap on wheels.

http://www.hyundaiforum.com/default.asp

Here ya go Chris, go and say it on this forum.:vader

BTW, before you go and by a buggy, beware, the whole body is made of plastic. :o

Now back to the topic...

Have the laws in NSW actually changed yet, or can you still rego a rebodied vehicle/kit car?

Hi

Talking to my engineer the other day about any new laws, he said that the biggest changes were with individually constructed vehicles.

Steve

More discussion here http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=45254
on the draft NCOP
http://www.dotrs.gov.au/transreg/vsb/vsb_ncop.aspx


[ Edited on 8-12-2005 by Jenny ]

Hi

Just spoke to the engineer again who will do my car, he must think Im parrenoid. It appears unlikely that Victoria & NSW will adopt these new regulations.

There were some things in these new regualtions that I didnt like, wheel sizes were a bit on the small side and they didnt allow firewalls to be modified, so I have no problem with NSW keeping the old rules.

Steve

1303Steve wrote:Hi

Just spoke to the engineer again who will do my car, he must think Im parrenoid. It appears unlikely that Victoria & NSW will adopt these new regulations.

There were some things in these new regualtions that I didnt like, wheel sizes were a bit on the small side and they didnt allow firewalls to be modified, so I have no problem with NSW keeping the old rules.

Steve

Don't be too sure. A friend was at a meeting with TAC and the RTA last weekend and NSW looks like it will be accepting the National Guidelines for Rods. Pressure is on the states for uniformity will all road rules.

just wondering where these new rules are at know trying to find out a few rules about engine conversions etc?
cheers
rhys

lol... I was looking at some old car magazines today; this has been going on since 1993!

info on the NCOP and which states have implemented it can be found in this thread;

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=45254