Super charging 1641

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 30 May 2004, 10:20 pm

#180478

Is an 1641 motor is the best for super charging ?
what cam would be used for this ??
heads stock ?

looking to do this mod seagull

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boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 31 May 2004, 10:38 pm

#180839

Hello Mate,

From what I understand, the 1641 is just a 1600 with a bore kit...thus thinner barrels. You would be better with the stock size barrels to cope with the extra stress....

Go to the A.J.Simms website....lowbudgetracing.com or just lowbudget.com...he sells a bolt on turbo kit for a stock 1600 for $2000 U.S. It fits under the lid and if you go to the dyno results and 1/4 mile times he is getting 14 seconds out of a stock turbo 1600 which can be driven daily with standard irs gear ratios.

Thats impressive. With the blower, what carb and unit etc are you planning on using??
The cam should be kept close to standard and the heads could probably use a little unshrouding of the valves and a minor port job. You can keep standard size valves though.

Give us you planned specs.....

Matt

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 1 Jun 2004, 12:53 am

#180890

Thanks Boof a few more late nights in the shed coming up .

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Jamox Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 1 Jun 2004, 11:07 pm

#181265

Seagull, (Neil??)

I thought you were going Subaru power? Are you still sellign all your vw gear if you aren't going Subi? What changed your mind?

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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 2 Jun 2004, 12:08 am

#181281

Jamox wrote:Seagull, (Neil??)

I thought you were going Subaru power? Are you still sellign all your vw gear if you aren't going Subi? What changed your mind?

What changed his mind?
The awsome power of the DAK DAK .........LOL:thumb

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 2 Jun 2004, 12:25 am

#181285

Jamie , yep subaru is for me ,I can build two more 1641 with the parts I have and have a super charger as well ,just looking for some ideas for a cheap build with power to go ! seagull

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Jamox Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 2 Jun 2004, 1:02 am

#181292

Yeh, it is very interesting allright. I am just getting into it and looking at the possibilities. Food for thought certainly.

So you are going super rather than turbo? Why have you made that choice? I don't know much about superchargign so I was wonderign if/why it is better.

With regard to turbos etc, have you had a look at
http://www.dune-buggy.com/turbo/index.htm

It is an excellent source of info with heaps of links too. It has helped me get going at least understanding it.

Go the "dak dak".

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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 2 Jun 2004, 1:16 am

#181295

well I have water cooled turbos in my mates shed ,and a super charger I can get very cheap like $300.00 or less .The turbo needs lots of pipe work headers ect ,and the super charger would be very easy for me , The other thing I can turn it off when I dont want it ,Um sure for the last one , hee hee .I am not sure what power would be there never been in a fast super charged vw , I seen one the other day in Perth Oval but did not think it was fast

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boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 2 Jun 2004, 1:34 pm

#181410

Hey All,

A really cheap way to turbo is to use standard header and just run a single pipe from the standard flange up to the turbo which sits just above the generator. On the left of the turbo you have a dcoe draw through and on the otherside of the turbo, the exhaust pipe runs back down and out. A "t" piece inlet manifold similar to standard attatches to the bottom of the turbo. There you have it....
see ...www.mufflermike.com and look at "Jims turbo set up"

Lots of guys run this.........very cheap.

Matt

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 9 Jun 2004, 10:05 am

#184582

There is a 1641 superchargeg kombi running a toyota blower for sale on the forum, under "fatso for sale"

Interested to know his set up..carbs etc....

Matt

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 14 Jun 2004, 1:29 am

#186369

what is the average power output of a supercharged 1641 with standard heads?

71superbug The Itch Itcher

1,184 posts · joined May 2004 · 14 Jun 2004, 1:30 am

#186370

what is the average power output of a supercharged 1641 with standard heads? and a dual kadron setup?

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 · 15 Jun 2004, 10:24 pm

#187282

There is no average, as there are not enough around , let alone with the same specs.

You probably couldnt run kadrons with a blower....the blower set up comes in two forms like a turbo....draw through or blow through.
Draw through is where the carb is mounted before the blower and a blow through(usually fuel injected) is where the blower is blowing through the chosen place of fuel delivery.

What did they used to say....a judson made a 1200 go like a 1500...so a small toyota blower may make 1641 go like a 1800 kombi motor.....anyone ???????

Matt