Anyone know what the corner weight is on their race beatle
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Thanks
Chris
[Edited on 5-6-2004 by Desert Moose]
Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut
2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
Corner Weight
tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!
1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
M8, that depends on a zillion different things and close to every different car will show a different set of weights.
How much fuel, position of battery and fuel tanks, wheels, tyres and brakes, how much trim is in the car, fibreglass goodies....shall I go on?
L8tr
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How much fuel, position of battery and fuel tanks, wheels, tyres and brakes, how much trim is in the car, fibreglass goodies....shall I go on?
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut
2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
Yes I think I know that :-) as I have been racing for over 10 years or more. I just wanted to know what someones beetle is as a comparison. Not anyone in particular just an average as I have just set up my buggy for the coil overs and just put it on the scales. SInce its running a new 1916 engine I was thinking of the power to weight differences.tassupervee wrote:M8, that depends on a zillion different things and close to every different car will show a different set of weights.
How much fuel, position of battery and fuel tanks, wheels, tyres and brakes, how much trim is in the car, fibreglass goodies....shall I go on?
L8tr
E
If you don't want to give away secrets you can u2u .....LOL
What I have: -
Front Total weight is 400lbs with an average unspurng of 68lbs a side.
The rear total is 1060lbs and unspurng of 126lbs a side
this is with me and 40lt of fuel in it. 1460lbs that is a cool 662.25kg. Ooo my feet are itchin'
[Edited on 5-6-2004 by Desert Moose]
[Edited on 5-6-2004 by Desert Moose]
seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
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um um I get 663.63 kg big fella !
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so how many KW is this 1916 thing O chris ??
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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut
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what conversion are you using ? isn't it 2.2046kg to lbsseagull wrote:um um I get 663.63 kg big fella !
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hee hee I used 2.2 hee hee
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Mate thats a light car ! now when you put the subaru in it in a few weeks let me know ok I know a little bit about these things ,heehee
did you get your welds sorted give me a yell if you can get it here I do it for ya .
did you get your welds sorted give me a yell if you can get it here I do it for ya .
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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut
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Big fella I am but not 663.63.......lolseagull wrote:um um I get 663.63 kg big fella !
gayanne Officially Full-On Dubber
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[Edited on 5-6-2004 by gayanne]Desert Moose wrote:Yes I think I know that :-) as I have been racing for over 10 years or more. I just wanted to know what someones beetle is as a comparison. Not anyone in particular just an average as I have just set up my buggy for the coil overs and just put it on the scales. SInce its running a new 1916 engine I was thinking of the power to weight differences.tassupervee wrote:M8, that depends on a zillion different things and close to every different car will show a different set of weights.
How much fuel, position of battery and fuel tanks, wheels, tyres and brakes, how much trim is in the car, fibreglass goodies....shall I go on?
L8tr
E
If you don't want to give away secrets you can u2u .....LOL
What I have: -
Front Total weight is 400lbs with an average unspurng of 68lbs a side.
The rear total is 1060lbs and unspurng of 126lbs a side
this is with me and 40lt of fuel in it. 1460lbs that is a cool 662.25kg. Ooo my feet are itchin'
[Edited on 5-6-2004 by Desert Moose]
[Edited on 5-6-2004 by Desert Moose]
tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!
1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
Hey Moose,
I wasnt being smart with you dude but there are just too many variables to consider for a comparo of corner weights, even in a simple Beetle since so many dudes have placed things differently around the cars to please themselves as far as weight balance.
The cornerweights will only really be relevant on exactly the same configuration of car and will contiunue to vary depending on the weight of the driver and his seating position!
Corner weight differences of even just a few kilos will have significant effect on a race car, on a given track and on a given day.
Its all too hard.......I need a Bex and a good lie down now!!
L8tr M8
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I wasnt being smart with you dude but there are just too many variables to consider for a comparo of corner weights, even in a simple Beetle since so many dudes have placed things differently around the cars to please themselves as far as weight balance.
The cornerweights will only really be relevant on exactly the same configuration of car and will contiunue to vary depending on the weight of the driver and his seating position!
Corner weight differences of even just a few kilos will have significant effect on a race car, on a given track and on a given day.
Its all too hard.......I need a Bex and a good lie down now!!
L8tr M8
E
Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
Oasis Going alone...
1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
Quote: "Dessertmoose,I run a sportsedan around 700 or under no heavier.I have a subie motor in the rear running 650springs rear 200 fronts was using 400rears but was wheel standing.Spacing weight around the car is the key.JVLRacing"
You poor guy! Hope you didn't spill anything with the front wheels in the trees
:thumb:beer
You poor guy! Hope you didn't spill anything with the front wheels in the trees
:thumb:beer
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tass it does not matter he can not catch me any way !
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gayanne Officially Full-On Dubber
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tassupervee wrote:Hey Moose,
I wasnt being smart with you dude but there are just too many variables to consider for a comparo of corner weights, even in a simple Beetle since so many dudes have placed things differently around the cars to please themselves as far as weight balance.
The cornerweights will only really be relevant on exactly the same configuration of car and will contiunue to vary depending on the weight of the driver and his seating position!
Corner weight differences of even just a few kilos will have significant effect on a race car, on a given track and on a given day.
Its all too hard.......I need a Bex and a good lie down now!!
L8tr M8
E
tassupervee That really hurts doesnt it!
1,171 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
Ur a cruel man seagull,,,,,very cruel!!!
Bwaaaahahahahahahaha
l8tr
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Bwaaaahahahahahahaha
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
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hee heee 😀
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fullnoise Fahrvergnugen
964 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Corner weight. That's on my list of things to do.
Once I get my front suspension right I'll try and find a place to corner weight the car.
It will probably give a good indication of how adjusting the front ride height effects weight distribution.
Moving the battery around and perhaps adding some lead hear and there may help things.
Does anybody know if IRS rear suspension starts to toe out as it compresses?
CYA CT
Once I get my front suspension right I'll try and find a place to corner weight the car.
It will probably give a good indication of how adjusting the front ride height effects weight distribution.
Moving the battery around and perhaps adding some lead hear and there may help things.
Does anybody know if IRS rear suspension starts to toe out as it compresses?
CYA CT
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gayanne Officially Full-On Dubber
307 posts · joined May 2004 ·
fullnoise wrote:Corner weight. That's on my list of things to do.
Once I get my front suspension right I'll try and find a place to corner weight the car.
It will probably give a good indication of how adjusting the front ride height effects weight distribution.
Moving the battery around and perhaps adding some lead hear and there may help things.
Does anybody know if IRS rear suspension starts to toe out as it compresses?
CYA CT
56astro Custom Title Time!
1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
For the swing axle susp, as the rear wheel/spring plate moves in either direction away from the parallel, toe-in is induced (the spring plate's pivot point is the torsion bar, so as the spring plate moves up or down, the wheel actually moves forward a little bit as well).
As for IRS, it may be the same principle, just with less deviation. I'm still looking that one up.
As for IRS, it may be the same principle, just with less deviation. I'm still looking that one up.
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35MPG on 101.3kPa
56astro Custom Title Time!
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Or less toe-out!
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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut
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Yes it does but not as much as swing. make sure if you change the ride height you but the car on a wheel aligner as the rear will toe out on both compression and extension. To much toe out will put you on your roof if your not lucky, but toe in will understeer.fullnoise wrote:Corner weight. That's on my list of things to do.
Once I get my front suspension right I'll try and find a place to corner weight the car.
It will probably give a good indication of how adjusting the front ride height effects weight distribution.
Moving the battery around and perhaps adding some lead hear and there may help things.
Does anybody know if IRS rear suspension starts to toe out as it compresses?
CYA CT
As for scales try a race shop like GMP racing, SpeedZone or Revolution race gear and hire them. In Perth I use Go-Gear and its $55 a day or if you use them alot they let you take them on the weekend for the same cost.
[Edited on 9-6-2004 by Desert Moose]