karmannghia60 Karmann Ghia Sucker
1,459 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Apart from clearing the case, the stroker crank and P&C? Conrods are different? Exhaust will be different I assume. Dual carb linkage will have to be extended? Tin?
What do I need for a stroker?
AdrianH Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
About 10 grand.
Che Castro ankle straps
1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
thats what i was thinking! 🙂
pushrods will need to be cut to fit, as well tinware
maybe a built up transmission, berg mount, traction bar and some good brakes🙂
pushrods will need to be cut to fit, as well tinware
maybe a built up transmission, berg mount, traction bar and some good brakes🙂
Jon
LOWBUG Insano Dub Head
738 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
Not to mention feeding this engine at least dual carbs or injection I recomend and not kadrons there a wast of time on big motors and machining, clearancing, head work. So yeh 10 to 15 thou as far as the gear box, drive it till it breaks and in the meantime save up for a beefier box.
Good Luck and have fun.....I am
Good Luck and have fun.....I am
boof2332 Custom Title Time!
1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·
All depends on how big you go.
It is the heads that cost the money and really influence the exhaust size and also the type of carbs etc...
You could build a standard type 2275(small valves) and run it with a really mild cam, single carb and a 1 1/2 exhaust....would not rev that hard, be pretty economical and pull tree stumps for fun.
The width is not that different because of the pin location in piston, the push rods are cut as mentioned.
Best to buy from CB or scat as a complete kit...then there is no room for error...except the mistakes they make...
Matt
It is the heads that cost the money and really influence the exhaust size and also the type of carbs etc...
You could build a standard type 2275(small valves) and run it with a really mild cam, single carb and a 1 1/2 exhaust....would not rev that hard, be pretty economical and pull tree stumps for fun.
The width is not that different because of the pin location in piston, the push rods are cut as mentioned.
Best to buy from CB or scat as a complete kit...then there is no room for error...except the mistakes they make...
Matt
Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut
2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
or a bin.............lol
just kidding :thumb
just kidding :thumb
mnsKmobi Wolfsburg Wizard
589 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
From what I've read:
Mild stroker is possible for DYI b/c clearancing,etc are kept to a minimum. More than that and you are talking serious dollars and lots of potential for failure from a million and one factors unless you get a kit from a reputable source and pay for them to have done the development work for you!
Mild stroker is possible for DYI b/c clearancing,etc are kept to a minimum. More than that and you are talking serious dollars and lots of potential for failure from a million and one factors unless you get a kit from a reputable source and pay for them to have done the development work for you!
boof2332 Custom Title Time!
1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·
What is serious dollars????? Not a joke.
I have no idea what it costs to get a motor built here in Australia.
What are people paying for a turn key 1916 for example. I know years ago a pobjoy with webbers was near 5k. has it changed?
Let me know and then I will tell you what a 2007-2332 complete kit from scat costs ....everything for a long block , case, heads(mini d's), billet crank, h-beam rods, cam, oil pump , pulley ...everything but tinwear, alt and carbs.
I want to put some perspective on costings.
Matt
[Edited on 30-6-2004 by boof2332]
I have no idea what it costs to get a motor built here in Australia.
What are people paying for a turn key 1916 for example. I know years ago a pobjoy with webbers was near 5k. has it changed?
Let me know and then I will tell you what a 2007-2332 complete kit from scat costs ....everything for a long block , case, heads(mini d's), billet crank, h-beam rods, cam, oil pump , pulley ...everything but tinwear, alt and carbs.
I want to put some perspective on costings.
Matt
[Edited on 30-6-2004 by boof2332]
karmannghia60 Karmann Ghia Sucker
1,459 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Gotta be more than 5k now
Case $950
Machining $200
Heads $600
P&Cs $450
Crank and Cam $1,000 (?)
Dual carbs $1,000
Balancing $300
That's $4.5ks in parts only and still dizzy, oil pump, exhaust, etc to go
Case $950
Machining $200
Heads $600
P&Cs $450
Crank and Cam $1,000 (?)
Dual carbs $1,000
Balancing $300
That's $4.5ks in parts only and still dizzy, oil pump, exhaust, etc to go
AdrianH Officially Full-On Dubber
257 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
You can run stock clearanced rods with an 82mm crank. Induction costs $$, heads and carbs. The cnc heads are a pretty good deal, the wedge port design seems to be working for some, you could conceivably put together a 12 second car with off the shelf parts using those heads, with the right combo.
Personally I have had really good experience with CB performance, and demello machine. Dont be scared off by the welded stroker, they are a very strong well proven crank.
Personally I have had really good experience with CB performance, and demello machine. Dont be scared off by the welded stroker, they are a very strong well proven crank.
LOWBUG Insano Dub Head
738 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
I've got a 74MM welded crank kicking around in my garage that I once used and I had no touble at all.
70AutoStik Insano Dub Head
730 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
If you can do basics like clearancing the case yourself, you put together a stroker longblock for about 6k.
I personally wouldn't put too much faith in the scat cast billet cranks for any serious performance, especially when there are excellent forged cranks for just a little more... (eg CB)
I personally wouldn't put too much faith in the scat cast billet cranks for any serious performance, especially when there are excellent forged cranks for just a little more... (eg CB)
LOWBUG Insano Dub Head
738 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
It dosn't stop there once you get a taste you'll want to rip it down and try somthing else thats where the cost comes,I'm about to rebirth my engine for the 3rd time after stroking and EFI I"m looking at more r&d.
boof2332 Custom Title Time!
1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·
O.k,
The Scat FORGED(mistake with earlier post...same price as cb forged cranks, and more people run them) volksracer complete engine kit for any size with an 82mm includes the following....
Everything for a long block......
Machined, full flowed case.
scat volksracer forged crank
heads mini d's 40x35.5
h-beam rods
cam
oil pump
bearings and gaskets
cromolly pushrods/tubes
barrels/pistons/rings
power pulley
rockers
cam/lightweight lifters
If I have forgotton something for a long block itis there!!!!
Cost $1865 US Shipping $200US
2065 US = 2992 Australian.
Duty will be 10% of total GST and 3% actual duty.
$3390 landed...
[Edited on 30-6-2004 by boof2332]
The Scat FORGED(mistake with earlier post...same price as cb forged cranks, and more people run them) volksracer complete engine kit for any size with an 82mm includes the following....
Everything for a long block......
Machined, full flowed case.
scat volksracer forged crank
heads mini d's 40x35.5
h-beam rods
cam
oil pump
bearings and gaskets
cromolly pushrods/tubes
barrels/pistons/rings
power pulley
rockers
cam/lightweight lifters
If I have forgotton something for a long block itis there!!!!
Cost $1865 US Shipping $200US
2065 US = 2992 Australian.
Duty will be 10% of total GST and 3% actual duty.
$3390 landed...
[Edited on 30-6-2004 by boof2332]
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Couldnt find that on CB
Aircooled.net is
SCAT Volkstroker 11 kit $1200 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ENG0001&cartid=0629200482788696
Heads - $500 - $2000 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=EHD0012&cartid=0629200482788696
case with clearance - $480 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ECA0001&cartid=0629200482788696
There is more like $2200 US
There long blocke are at least $4000 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ESE0002&cartid=0629200482788696
Fast aint cheap 🙁
Aircooled.net is
SCAT Volkstroker 11 kit $1200 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ENG0001&cartid=0629200482788696
Heads - $500 - $2000 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=EHD0012&cartid=0629200482788696
case with clearance - $480 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ECA0001&cartid=0629200482788696
There is more like $2200 US
There long blocke are at least $4000 US
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ESE0002&cartid=0629200482788696
Fast aint cheap 🙁
Futue te ipsum!!!
boof2332 Custom Title Time!
1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·
Its from Scat VW, not a distributor.
go to scatvw.com
see catalog. you do not get a price lit ...it gets mailed to you...or if you purchase something, like I did, then they posty it to you. They have three prices. racer, dealer and wholesale. Anyone with a business can get dealer.
The volksroker kit is cheaper than the volksracer kit also.
My vollsracer kit minus head and case was $800, with 1.4 rocker and an engle cam upgrade and different pulley cost me about $1700 landed.......
matt.
go to scatvw.com
see catalog. you do not get a price lit ...it gets mailed to you...or if you purchase something, like I did, then they posty it to you. They have three prices. racer, dealer and wholesale. Anyone with a business can get dealer.
The volksroker kit is cheaper than the volksracer kit also.
My vollsracer kit minus head and case was $800, with 1.4 rocker and an engle cam upgrade and different pulley cost me about $1700 landed.......
matt.
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
WOW.... good buying there!
Futue te ipsum!!!
Dannyboy half man , half horse
2,306 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
Thanks to Boof2332 thats where my baby will come from!
Dan🙂
Dan🙂
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