sgetty Fahrvergnugen
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[Edited on 5-7-2004 by sgetty]
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ok whos gunna build one of these
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Are you going to Valla?
65 Meyers Manx
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68 Country Buggy (KO 367)
68 Country Buggy (KO 669)
68 Country Buggy (KO 789)
68 Country Buggy (KO 815)
68 Baja Bug
76 Baja Kombi Twincab
sgetty Fahrvergnugen
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sgetty Fahrvergnugen
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im gunna try to get there but got semi finals on that weekend, well thats if i havnt been chucked off the team allready:beer
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11CAB If ya got it....Baja it
4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
If your lucky you may just see one at Valla
65 Meyers Manx
68 Country Buggy (KO 367)
68 Country Buggy (KO 669)
68 Country Buggy (KO 789)
68 Country Buggy (KO 815)
68 Baja Bug
76 Baja Kombi Twincab
68 Country Buggy (KO 367)
68 Country Buggy (KO 669)
68 Country Buggy (KO 789)
68 Country Buggy (KO 815)
68 Baja Bug
76 Baja Kombi Twincab
HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
The grey one is similar to what is happening in my garage but mine is chopped more!
sgetty Fahrvergnugen
994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
well im gunna have to get myself there...
whats the story whith rego matt, the open wheel thing hard to get passed
deon
whats the story whith rego matt, the open wheel thing hard to get passed
deon
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dak dak ute Seriously Crusin Dubber
119 posts · joined May 2004 ·
i would have thought you would need spats similar to what hot rods have......
sgetty Fahrvergnugen
994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
spats? what are they?
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Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile
1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·
not spats. but you probably need some cursory attempt at mudguardery. I'd build one for sure, but maybe have thinner cut down and rolled guards at the back. noice, very noice.
let sleeping dubs lie
sgetty Fahrvergnugen
994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
oh yeah ive seen some rods whith them,would look cooler without them but if dem the rules
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SKEWtYpe3 Custom Title Time!
1,859 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
i love the look of the body being moved 10 or more inches back on the pan, toughens it up for sure !😎
sgetty Fahrvergnugen
994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
i dont think the body has been moved back i think the front suspention is moved forward and i think its ford steering, i read it in vwtrends or something.
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bigbruvabob Officially Full-On Dubber
216 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
go to volksrod .com they have a tech section on there that gives step by steps on how to lengthen chassie.Below is a photo shop of my rod look 64 that will be finished in about two months. It aint chopped or anything as i dont have the skills as yet and really need to get it on the road as it is our "family" car and was meant to be finished two months ago. Its in primer at moment and the satin black will go on in a week or two and the flames a week,later the stencils for the flame layout are done and all the paint bought. the lowering is done and the motor sitting in the pobjoys workshop waiting for the call.
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bigbruvabob Officially Full-On Dubber
216 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
I would really like to do one of these, i have seen a few different ones on the volksrod site. Matt do you happen to know if these are available as a complete body kit and if so where you get them from. cheers david
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SKEWtYpe3 Custom Title Time!
1,859 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
you are right, the top one has a ford front end.
they arent lengthening the chasis, they are moving the bodies forward, you can tell as the back wheels are also further forward !
Anyway, these rat rods are supposed to be a cheaper easier look at something different, so it makes sense of moving the shel rather than modding the chassis.
Personally i wold do the full body move as it makes the Whole car look different as just lengthening the fron would look half assed i think.....hmmmmmmm. would like to compare it actually.
anyway...........
J
they arent lengthening the chasis, they are moving the bodies forward, you can tell as the back wheels are also further forward !
Anyway, these rat rods are supposed to be a cheaper easier look at something different, so it makes sense of moving the shel rather than modding the chassis.
Personally i wold do the full body move as it makes the Whole car look different as just lengthening the fron would look half assed i think.....hmmmmmmm. would like to compare it actually.
anyway...........
J
humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
The top first one is called 'stink bug' and was built by a guy that us to live in San Fransico. His name is Fred Hidalgo and he achieved the look by fitting an "I" beam style frontend that is common on Hotrods....As far as I'm concerned, that is the best way to go as for as the look is concerned.
But there are a couple of problems with this method in Australia. First it would be tough (though no impossible) to get it legal as a whole new frontend subframe has to be purchased (SoCalook.com) or fabbed. And second, the "I" beam set-up has be bought. That said.....The technology is there for the taking in the Hotrod scene. Go se Castlemain Hotrods (or similar) for these set-ups.
The second option is to move the body back around 350mm to get the look. This method look to wierd at the rear of a bug if you ask me....Though it's not a problem if you are building a ute style rod. Again this method has it's problems....It is very hard to mod a bug body in this way, as the floorpan/body relationship is very important to the integrity and safety of the car....
Another possible method is to re-mount the front beam farther forward. I think some guy on volksrods.com makes something like that....Could be a far cheaper option. though not as pretty.
I feel the first option is the best if you want a 'legal' road car, that has the right hotrod look and one that the cops will more than likely go for. It would also make for a much better handling road car as the wheel base would be extended....
One day I will do this....I have been wanting to do this for over a 10 years, but other projects, family and studys get in the way....
One day!
But there are a couple of problems with this method in Australia. First it would be tough (though no impossible) to get it legal as a whole new frontend subframe has to be purchased (SoCalook.com) or fabbed. And second, the "I" beam set-up has be bought. That said.....The technology is there for the taking in the Hotrod scene. Go se Castlemain Hotrods (or similar) for these set-ups.
The second option is to move the body back around 350mm to get the look. This method look to wierd at the rear of a bug if you ask me....Though it's not a problem if you are building a ute style rod. Again this method has it's problems....It is very hard to mod a bug body in this way, as the floorpan/body relationship is very important to the integrity and safety of the car....
Another possible method is to re-mount the front beam farther forward. I think some guy on volksrods.com makes something like that....Could be a far cheaper option. though not as pretty.
I feel the first option is the best if you want a 'legal' road car, that has the right hotrod look and one that the cops will more than likely go for. It would also make for a much better handling road car as the wheel base would be extended....
One day I will do this....I have been wanting to do this for over a 10 years, but other projects, family and studys get in the way....
One day!
warb gimme some butter im on a roll.....
1,983 posts · joined May 2003 ·
the one @ valla...
not mods, just no guards... like it..
not mods, just no guards... like it..
sgetty Fahrvergnugen
994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·
oh yes loooks good:beer
i wish i was there:cry
i wish i was there:cry
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Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it
4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·
I guess its a requirement to run some sort of guard in Oz
HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Yes guards are a requirement. 1/3 + 1 inch of the rolling diameter.
I guess I better get mine finished soon before they become like hemroids. After all it's been in the works for more than 2 years and in sketches for a few more...
It's a pity Jeff didn't bother to do it right and get it all legal before taking it on the road. Just gonna make those of us who are doing them legal get harrassed more ....
I guess I better get mine finished soon before they become like hemroids. After all it's been in the works for more than 2 years and in sketches for a few more...
It's a pity Jeff didn't bother to do it right and get it all legal before taking it on the road. Just gonna make those of us who are doing them legal get harrassed more ....
HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
In regard to using ford style dropped I beams etc or frame head extensions.
It is possible and engineers will even approve it (when done properly) ... but most engineers will call it an ICV when the wheelbase is extended - you can forget about an aircooled engine then. All current ADRs will apply.
It is possible and engineers will even approve it (when done properly) ... but most engineers will call it an ICV when the wheelbase is extended - you can forget about an aircooled engine then. All current ADRs will apply.
pyr0 flame-on
4,457 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·
hey matt any chance at a sneaak peek of your one ?? or are you gonna show it off to us like that kool blue splitty...once its completly finished ?
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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Maybe once it's on the pan and the roof chop is completed...
But I'm not telling too many details of thigs that will happen as I don't want to see them on other cars before we are done.
But I'm not telling too many details of thigs that will happen as I don't want to see them on other cars before we are done.
bigbruvabob Officially Full-On Dubber
216 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
what do you mean by icv and what other options to exteend that can be done in oz? I'm gunna do one of these.
bigbruvabob Officially Full-On Dubber
216 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·
what do you mean by icv and what other options to exteend that can be done in oz? I'm gunna do one of these.
kroozzn63 Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,005 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
hey sgetty where did you find those nice rods?
show us your gates
kroozzn63 Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,005 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
is it starting with a 56 red rag top to your creation?
show us your gates
HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!
3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
ICV means Individually Constructed Vehicle. Must comply with all current ADRs.what do you mean by icv and what other options to exteend that can be done in oz? I'm gunna do one of these.