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bigbruvabob Officially Full-On Dubber

216 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#203521
ok i just had the 34 pict on the roadster rebuilt and the carby guy said the air return tubes on the manifold must be blocked as the carby is really cold even at normal operating temp. now this is causing me dramas in tuning as tuned right the car runs great but in early morning driving in winter ie now the cold weather never allows the car to idle properly and as i drive to work at 6 in the morning it is a pita as it stalls any time at idle. the carby guy said i could do a mod where u wrap a wire around the manifold below the carby to heat the manifold. Can anyone out there give detailed instructions on how to do this ( a diagram would be helpful) please help please please am desperate to get car running smoothly

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#203565
there is a devive you can buy that is a heater you wrap around the manifold that adds heat.
I have heard mixed reponses about hese. IMDU or something they are called.
As an electrician i cant really see how that much heat would do any thing.

You are better off getting a good 2nd hand manifold and cleaning out the tubes and replacing what you have.

Do you have a stock exhaust???
If you have an after market header it will never work properly as the heat riser take off are all wrong.
Really only works properly on a stock exhaust
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seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#203658
I have done this and it works very well , but you need to make a housing * block for the * finger heater to fit *This I clamped to inlet manifold worked a treat.

I just wired it to a switch on the dash , turn it on when you wish to .

You need the block or the heater will just get too hot and shit its self , so I got real smart and fitted a simastat * the bit were you would ajust the heat seting* from an old oven .this was found on the side of the road .I made a box with the dial , so I could then ajust the heat .

the one I use is from a company called RS components ,it was around $50.00
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16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#203668
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mnsKmobi Wolfsburg Wizard

589 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#203699
Check out Rob and Daves VW pages for the procedure to clean the blocked manifold tube (also lots of other good stuff!!).

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Lane/1970/

Have you got the pipe that brings warm air into the air cleaner? That will also be a big help in cold weather.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#203712
My Son runs a Holley Bugspray with a different manifold and He has BIG problems during our -3C etc mornings and nights.
Sometimes the carby just freezes up altogether....

Where do You get these heaters from Neil ??

Where are RS components located??

Most used manifolds I see are either blocked or cut off ....

Lee --
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

bigbruvabob Officially Full-On Dubber

216 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#203720
um cheers guys i actually have a spare manifold lying about ,although it looks like it will require some serious cleaning and now i can see why this blockage would be a problem. cheers david

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#203864
rs components are in all states , I get you the number if you like , neil
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manxed69 Officially Full-On Dubber

211 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#203928
My poor little buggy was giving me trouble last winter one morning. I stopped to see if everything looked OK and found the botton inch of the carbie covered in ice.

Took off the manifold to clean it and guess what? Clean. Since I don't drive in winter much I put up with it and it only seems to effect the idle anyway so it's not a big problem.

I'm not sure that a heater below the carbie is a good idea though. How hot does it get when it's turned on?

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#203947
It has to pretty darn hot to warm up the fuel before it freezes up the carby.... also the warm air from below the engine should be hooked to the air cleaner in the winter to feed it warm air...

Neil,
Yes, Let Me know where RS components are in NSW...
My Son needs one urgently... I'll have to make up a rheostat to adjust it.... or just use some resistance... if they don't last when connected all the time...

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#203998
Lee I have found a 240 volt one in the shed , all you need is a very long extension lead !:thumb
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#204001
Knowing My Son, He would probably run over the lead Neil ???🙂🙂🙂
so that wouldn't work...🙂🙂

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#204030
manxed69 wrote:Took off the manifold to clean it and guess what? Clean. Since I don't drive in winter much I put up with it and it only seems to effect the idle anyway so it's not a big problem.
my GUESS is you are running extractors and the take off points where your heat risers join the holes are not drilled out.

Even if they are they are both at the same pressure point and you wount get a flow - only a pulse back and forth. Better than nothing but not like the good Doctor invented
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oval TOFU Bitte, ein Bit!

2,946 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#204038
well, on the 'exit' side (the left?) you could use a gasket with a smaller hole in it to reduce the pressure on that side perhaps?
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