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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#218635
In my endless quest for knowledge I came across this interesting document (which I copied to my website). It's a bulletin from QLD transport on air bags, hydraulics and lowering in general. Although it is for QLD, most of it would apply for other states too.

http://www.offroadvw.net/tech/vsi_suspension.htm
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PurpleT3 Fahrvergnugen

880 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#218660
Bugger. Am I reading that correctly drop spindles, air bags and adjustable systems are not allowed and you cannot lower a vehicle more than 1/3 of its' original ride height?
Ain't nothin' like the wind in your hair.

Purple Martin Fahrvergnugen

913 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#218675
*EDIT* just realised what I said was wrong, so deleted it. 😠

[Edited on 16-8-2004 by Purple Martin]
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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,474 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#218678
since all states rule are based on the ADRs i think its safe to say that yes they apply to all states but dont take my word on it check with the relevant authorities
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Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#218680
pretty much. no cutting off bump stops either which is a popular link pin mod.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#218719
I better be a little clearer on that last response. You can use air bags, but they are not allowed to be adjustable by the driver while the vehicle is in motion, and a heap of other requirements which make them no fun at all.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

aircooled70 Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#218730
who cares just do it!!!

aircooled70 Commited Dubber

62 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#218732
already ordered my set from ClassicVW(pacific) here in Qld.

PurpleT3 Fahrvergnugen

880 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#218737
The way I understand it, what they are saying is if you have adjustable height devices they can only be for a specific purpose, such as wheelchair access. They must also return to initial position automatically before the vehicle can drive off. This means no using bags to drop the car on it's belly for a show, then rasing it up before you drive off. Definitely takes all the fun out of them. Why are our rules so strict?
Queensland Transport will not permit the fitting of replacement/additional air bag or hydraulic suspension systems to vehicles that allow the driver to raise and lower all or some corners of the vehicle for show purposes.
It seems they are specifically targeting car enthusiasts who may do this for show purposes. They don't even allow for these modifications if they are safety approved by an auto engineer, they must be for a specific approved purpose. Are these rules a new revision, or have they always existed?
Ain't nothin' like the wind in your hair.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#218746
the original rules are pretty hazy, so they bring out bulletins and things at a later date to clarify things. This is one of them, dated 7 August 2003.

The original rules already have most of that stuff, the 1/3 travel and everything. That bulletin is the most specifically aimed at taking the fun out of things bulletin I have seen so far. They are pretty silly and generally only issue the bulletins to approved inspectors etc, so most of us never know what's going on. Hopefully that will change in the not too distant future with things moving to australian wide rules.
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www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

kombi_kid Moderator Good Kid too many projects

124 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#218789
rules are made to be broken!!
it aint just cool its aircool'd

Unity-28 TOO LOW? NEVER

1,742 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#219006
At this stage, I Believe its only QLD, as a mate has been pulled over a number of times by the cops after starting his car, lifting it and driving off. The Cops check that he has an engineers report, and let him go, but it would be different if he dragged it in front of them!

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blutopless2 DAMSLO

2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#219236
is interesting to note that dropped spindles are illegal... yet how many people have them installed...
see.... air and water do mix 😉

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HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#219257
Dropped spindles can be engineer approved, at least in NSW.

blutopless2 DAMSLO

2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#219258
guess it would take a keen eye to spot them installed anyway..... "honest officer.... they were on the car when i bought it..... " :thumb
see.... air and water do mix 😉

1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro