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hmm yet another problem with my baja seems to be an ignition thing....can someone help please. 68Autobug perhaps? youre pretty e

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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234758
ok so driving home from work on saturday afternoon. car going fine and then all of a sudden the engine stops in mid drive.....hmm i think and pull over. i check the leads and fuel lines etc. everything looked fine so i got back in the car and it started fine and then drove home......i figured i must have somehow bumped the ignition key off when i changed down to 3rd for the hill i was climbing kinda un likely but the only thing i could think of. then later that evening (batman cartoon comentary voice). i was driving into town to get some coke to go with some home brew rum we happend to have (no i had not consumed any alcahol before the trip). and then climbing another hill........made a pop noise and it happend again! bah pulled over....took off the dissy cap and wound engine over ....the points were opening and closing fine and everything seemed fine......so i drove home (didnt bother going into town) so now this morning i checked all the wiring at the back and changed any dodgy stuff (looks alot neater now 🙂) and then we decided to take a shorter trip down to the corner store with its highly inflated prices to get coke about half an hour ago and itstarted fine but as i revved it a bit it missed a beat hmm ok.......so then i drove to the shop and it kept sort of turning off (like it would stop firing and then roll start itself) was especially bad driving up the hill coming home. im waiting for the engine to cool down so i can pull the plugs but could this be a faulty coil? or what? someones got to have had something like this.......i dont get it its wierd the tappets also seem to have gotten loud on the passenger side. anyone got an idea? condensor perhaps?

Nick
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234759
oh and since doing to points a week or 2 ago latly.....it was great for like a week (no backfiring running sweet as) it has started to backfire when i take my foot of the go pedal...especially going down hills.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Oasis Going alone...

1,806 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#234765
sounds like the coil
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234766
yeah thats what i was thinking.....its a bosch GT40 coil they arent that exxy i will get a new one anyway......is it worth getting another GT40 or just get a standard bosche coil?
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234778
Have you got a Tacho in the Baja bug?
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234786
nope unfortunatly
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234791
Thats ok, the wire from the coil to the tacho can give the same symptoms if it earths out......Is the wire from the coil to the distributor ok and not exposed anywhere? Also do you have a standard carby with a fuel cut off solenoid?
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234801
yep standard carbie.....30pict 2 the fuel cut off solinoid is connected and the wire to the dissy is connected well with no exposure......all the wiring in the engine bay should be top notch i just spent ages today looking for a loose one.....is there a way to check the fuel cut off solinoid?
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234802
Yeah, take it out of the carby and see if the end has been cut off already....... if it has then that is not the problem, if it is still intact, then refit it the the carby, turn the ignition on and then take the wire on & off the solenoid, you should here an audible click if it is working.
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234803
ok ill go do that now
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234806
when i took the wire off the solinoid the engine stopped
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234808
Ok I'll rephrase that.........with the engine off , turn the ignition to the on position not start, then take the wire on and off for the click......was the wire tight?
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234811
the wire was pretty tight ill go try again.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234815
ok yes i hear the click
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234822
When you did the points, did you clean the contacts before fitting? They come with a protective coating to stop them rusting which needs to be wiped off before installing, also you need to put a little grease on the rubbing block to stop it wearing out too early.
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234826
they were reasonably new points that were already in the dissy we didnt get new ones cause they were new we just adjusted and cleaned them off however vince from up the road filed a little bit of burning off the points but he knows what hes doing i wouldnt file them. the fuel cut of solinoid makes sense if it was that but it seems to work fine if the coil is wearing out would it do this?
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

11CAB If ya got it....Baja it

4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234827
Coils dont usually wear out as such, they usually just stop working. See if you can borrow one from someone before shelling out the dollars.
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234828
ive got the one in my superbug ill pull it out tomorrow and check it. it should work fine though it hasnt been started in 6 months.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234831
when it cuts out, does it cut out for more than 1 second?

So if you driving, does it cut, then just roll over in gear for a while, you pump the pedal and nothing happens, and then it starts working again?

It you can do that, without a huge bang out the exhaust when it restarts, then I really doubt it's the ignition. It's probably the fuel.

You see if the ignition totally cuts, but fuel keeps going thru, and then the ignition restarts, it will ignite the fuel in the exhaust. It's like doing a key-banger if you know what that is.

I suspect you may be having fuel problems. When's the last time the carby was cleaned out properly? how's the fuel filter look?
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Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234837
yeah i know what a key banger is.....its only for a second or so and the carb was rebuilt recently and even more recently i pulled it off and blew out the jets and fuel passages with compressed air the fuel filter is about 2 weeks old and clean.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234873
you could try the jeff hibbard $2 tune up. Take the air cleaner off, rev the engine up and then stick your hand flat over the opening of the carb. As it dies down towards idle take you hand back off. Do this a couple of times.

If you have any crap (water in particular) sitting in your float bowl it will basically try to suck it through the engine. The trick works best if you can put a small hose on the float bowl vent to extend it past the top of the carb. Then do it so you cover the throat of the carb with your hand, but not the float bowl vent. Then she'll really suck through that main jet.

PS - water is denser than fuel, so it sits at the bottom of the float bowl where your main jet is. Also because it is denser and more viscous than fuel it doesn't flow through the main jet properly. So basically a little bit of water is capable of blocking a main jet.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234877
hmm ok as long as this wont damage anything ill try it tomorrow.
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234896
it won't damage anything.

The hose to extend the float bowl vent line is a good thing, stops fuel sloshing out of the vent on rough terrain.

And the putting your hand over the carb when the engine is revving at full throttle will make you crap yourself the first time you do it (as it sucks your hand to the carb). But don't worry, you and the car will be fine. Don't lean your head over the carb though, just in case it pops back through the carb (I haven't had it happen but it is possible).
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234907
hmm maybe ill put a bit of plastic over insteat of my hand
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#234913
don't use thin plastic like a coles bag, it will suck it right down there.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#234918
nah i was thinking a peice of acrillic
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom

Anthiron The Baja Rejuvenation Begins

4,936 posts · joined Oct 2003 ·

#235393
ok i dont know whether it was mucking about with the fuel cut of solinoid on the cabie or wes' hand over the carbie throat technique but i just drove to and from work tonight (20 mins each way) and had no dramas so it appears to be fixed.....thanks for the help guys....especially 11cab and baja wes.

Nick
62/60 model bug eye baja bug, (Full Build in Progress)
1974 Chevrolet Luv
1970 MK2 Ford Cortina GT
1979 Yamaha RX125 Two Stroke tracker project.
2004 Harley Davidson Sportster XL Custom