Southern Van Officially Full-On Dubber
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
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If that 1200cc vw engine can push a total vee dub beetle, then that bike should fly. WOOOSH!:sandrine
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
puurri Casual Dubber
21 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Fella called Mick Gabor did a few in the late 60s and early 70's. finished up with an Empi powered 2210 or thereabouts with RJay turbo. Used a Datsun 240Z clutch (or maybe a 120Y ?). First out with turbo he looped it at 70MPH on the 2-3 change. Timed at 250KPH by coppers, outside of Bathurst . jesus, not good!!
He also did a Cortina GT 1600 with turbo in a Norton featherbed frame and auto trans, fairly fast too.
:repuke:repuke
He also did a Cortina GT 1600 with turbo in a Norton featherbed frame and auto trans, fairly fast too.
:repuke:repuke
bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6
6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
250KPH? Holy Crap. That is bloody insane on a moto!
Imagine falling off and skidding on the bitumen at 250ks, I wonder how far you would slide.
Imagine falling off and skidding on the bitumen at 250ks, I wonder how far you would slide.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
ancientbugger Custom Title Time!
1,986 posts · joined Mar 2004 ·
I think you'll find VW Brazil actually produced VW motorbikes for a while back in the 70's
puurri Casual Dubber
21 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·
Fellas,
I know the Brazil project, just a miserable 40HP, probably for sidecar use.
As for throwing it down the road one mate did just that at 240KMH on a ZZRR1100 but the record stands at last year's moto GP with the Kawasaki doing just that at about 320. Kevlar body armour under leathers.
Cheap fun at $11K s/hand for one. 0-100 KPH inside 3 sec, tops out around 290, but with a rechip can do more.
I know the Brazil project, just a miserable 40HP, probably for sidecar use.
As for throwing it down the road one mate did just that at 240KMH on a ZZRR1100 but the record stands at last year's moto GP with the Kawasaki doing just that at about 320. Kevlar body armour under leathers.
Cheap fun at $11K s/hand for one. 0-100 KPH inside 3 sec, tops out around 290, but with a rechip can do more.
Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l
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puurri Casual Dubber
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pimped up I see.
handycam king of something
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love that orange one it is sweet as
pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome
6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
See harleys really are over-rated, this is much better 😎
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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Menangler Custom Title Time!
1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Here is another
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FAHRVERGNUGEN;
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.
Description of a pleasurable sensation,
Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.
Mad Manx KombiKroozin
456 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
ooh i want one now....... thanks guys:P
- '71 Kombi (Died 24/11/05😢 ) - '65 manx (smick) -'63 beetle (bent) -'73 Singlecab (new to the stable)
Mad Manx KombiKroozin
456 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Between dubs and bikes I'm gunna be poor for ever.... might as well join my passions together, might save a few bob
[Edited on 5-6-2005 by Mad Manx]
[Edited on 5-6-2005 by Mad Manx]
- '71 Kombi (Died 24/11/05😢 ) - '65 manx (smick) -'63 beetle (bent) -'73 Singlecab (new to the stable)
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
I have an original Amazonas brochue that I have scanned, follow the links below for the pictures from it, dont want slow everthing down by posting them here. They are about 125kb each.
Steve
http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/Amazonas.jpg
http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/Amazonas_back_cover.jpg
http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/Amazonas_inside.jpg
I have an original Amazonas brochue that I have scanned, follow the links below for the pictures from it, dont want slow everthing down by posting them here. They are about 125kb each.
Steve
http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/Amazonas.jpg
http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/Amazonas_back_cover.jpg
http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/Amazonas_inside.jpg
Quoll Officially Full-On Dubber
232 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·
What about this supercharged one :duh
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Cam Custom Title Time!
1,535 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Gather then that you havent seen the second ghostrider movie with the 499HP turbocharged Hyabusa? 😉mynameischris88 wrote:250KPH? Holy Crap. That is bloody insane on a moto!
Imagine falling off and skidding on the bitumen at 250ks, I wonder how far you would slide.
Southern Van Officially Full-On Dubber
243 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·
Quoll, love to rock up to the dept., of transport on that.
Southern Van Officially Full-On Dubber
243 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·
Has anyone ever seen or ridden one of these Amazonas bikes? Would love to have a go on one. Dont supose there would be one in aussie.
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi
I have an road test from a bike magazine around somewhere, I will see if I can track it down, the tester was not very impressed with it. I beleive there is one in the NT.
Steve
I have an road test from a bike magazine around somewhere, I will see if I can track it down, the tester was not very impressed with it. I beleive there is one in the NT.
Steve
1303Steve Scirocco Rare
8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
Hi found the text from the article.
McMod Amazonas Review
Alan Cathcart (Australian Motorcycle news) Date ??
Small manufacturers of cars generally use other people's engines for cost reasons- You might call this the "Amazonas Syndrome', because there can be no earthly justification otherwise for the creation of the Brazilian Behemoth, a motorcycle so lacking sophistication and finish that you can scarcely believe someone, somewhere, is actually turning them out of an established factory. Russian bikes used to be the means by which we reminded ourselves of the design and construction excellence of latter-day Japanese and most Western European motorcycles. Not now. The Amazonas has amply and that's putting it mildly for a two-wheeler scaling 386 kg dry and with a wheelbase of no less than 1680 mm usurped the Eastern Bloc bikes in this educational role. After seeing photos of the Amazonas in various magazines over the years, 1 was curious to actually see one in the flesh, so to speak. Could it really be as elephantine and grotesque in reality as it appeared in pictures'? And, more to the point, what was it like to ride? 1 finally got the chance when 1 learned that Rainer Koch had secured the European dealership for the VW-powered bike in Germany, so I paid hint a visit. This gigantic motorbike undoubtedly represents the Third Reich's last laugh: somehow it's ironic, yet apt, that it should emanate from South America, post-war bolthole for so many former Nazis. For when he authorised production of the Porsche designed Kdf-Wagen, Hitler probably had no idea that it would represent the only avenue by which his dreams of world domination might be achieved. Fifty years on, literally tens of millions of the rechristened Volkswagen Beetle- have been built, long after the model was dropped in. its native Germany, continues to be churned out in two Third World countries: Mexico and Brazil (Brazil up to 1986 Ed.) Hence the Amazonas. When Daniel Ferreira Rodrigues decided in 1978 that the improving road system of his native Brazil, coupled with its status as the worlds leading debtor nation and consequently prodigious in-import duties on any motorbike not locally produced, called for a large capacity touring machine, he decided to build a 100%. Brazilian bike, using the air cooled flat flat-four pushrod VW engine still being built in large numbers in Sao Paulo. Rodrigues company, AME is based practically across the street from the VW factory from which he buys the. engines complete with four-speed gearboxes. However. instead of using the inherent strength of the car engine as a fully stressed member, AME has constructed a crudely-welded full duplex tubular chassis into which the engine is shoehorned thus adding weight and reducing rigidity. This is typical of the whole design attitude of the Amazonas, whose creators appeared intent on making the bike as massive, as crude. (read cheap) and as ungainly as possible. Look at those evil alloy castings for the footboards, or the brake master cylinder, amateurishly sculptured by hand complete with marry shaky lines where the artisan paused for a slug from the sugar-cane still. Or at the massive front forks, 48 mm in diameter with barely noticeable compression damping and fitted with weighty 10 mm thick cast iron disc brakes borrowed, like the large ATE callipers, from a local Ford car, and twice, as thick (and heavy) as most normal bike brakes. A 28 degree fork angle scarcely improves the steering response, and I imagine that in solo form lugging a bike with such a massive wheelbase round any but the gentlest curve must be a severe test of the riders pectorals. 1 say imagine because after riding his newly acquired Amazonas a Super Esporte model with twin carb (32 mm Solexes nicked from the local Ford Escort parts bin) 1584ce engine, as opposed to the single carb 1600 Esporte or Turismo. Rainer Koch decided that it was completely unsuitable for solo use and decided to fit a sidecar. The fact that part of his business is making these for BMWs proved handy, so when I came to grapple with the Brazilian Behemoth, it was in three-wheeler form (now scaling, a mere 496kg!) which at least gave some measure of security, especially once I had a look at the 5.00.x16 Cargal, crossply tyres. car type covers with practically no shoulder which looked as if they'd send you into the weeds once you tried to lean more than ten degrees from the vertical. Rainer claimed this was the worst thing about the bike when he rode it in solo form, followed closely by the steering. Mind you, those forks are so massive. that while he normally fits his leading fork conversion to the BMWs he attaches chairs to, it wasn’t necessary in the case of the Amazonas! The VWs starter motor is obviously retained so a touch of the button cranks the flat-four into life. Never a quiet motor even under a Beetle back, it's extremely noisy in the Amazonas partly because the twin megaphone exhaust are almost unbaffled presumably to try to reasonable performance out of the beasts measly 67-bhp at 4600rpm, and partly because in spite of the cylinders exposed location in bike use, it's been thought necessary to retain the. huge fan, which sits crossways in front of the engine dominating the frontal aspect of the machine. This whirr’s away to itself, making conversation with the sidecar passenger possible only by shouting. The VW gearbox is fitted with Amazonas' own single-plate cable-operated diaphragm clutch that is reasonably light to use, though the same can’t be said for the VW gearbox, converted to foot change by means of a mechanical linkage that can only be termed crude, and operated by a left-side Italian-type rocking pedal that requires you to remove your foot from the board to use it. Being a car box, it naturally comes with reverse gear, handy in -a sidecar, which you select by means of a special hand lever on the right side, of the bike after obviously coming to a rest first. With the VW crown wheel and pinion, but AMEs own conversion chain final drive (cheaper than making your own hypoid unit for the rear wheel, that’s why), a top speed of just 160km/h is claimed by Amazonas, but it’d be a brave man who’d dare to push the monster’s velocity to those extremes. Somehow the fact that most 25Occ bikes from the Orient or Europe will comfortably outspeed the machine Amazonas proudly trumpets as O Major Moto do Mundo (the biggest bike in the. world) puts it all in perspective. Trundling along at half the claimed top speed with the Koch sidecar attached was a sobering experience, apart front the clutch, all the controls are so heavy you feel you need a Charles Atlas course to be able to ride it. Besides the noise problem, there's fairly considerable drivetrain snatch, caused by the fact that the drive chain is so long and the final drive design so poorly executed, it needs a jockey wheel to be fitted to maintain tension even with the rock-hard rear suspension, itself a primitive layout combining totally ineffective Brazilian-made hydraulic dampers with a primitive plunger type location for the rear axle. However humble the means and facilities at his disposal, your average garage builder can do better than this, When the passenger got out of the sidecar, I found the task of controlling the monster without any chair ballast literally overwhelming. I practically gave myself a hernia trying to keep all 500 kg of it from overbalancing going round right handers. Of course, sheer bulk alone need not pose any problems for you in a bike. But even your experienced Honda Aspencade or Kawasaki Voyager pilot would find the crudity, lack of response and noise of the Amazonas quite daunting. About the only thing it's got going for it is that reverse gear. I suppose a Brazilian bike enthusiast would find our view of the Amazonas insufferably condescending and pompous. After all, you have to do the best with what you've got, right? Right except that by any engineering standards the Amazonas is a disaster. After riding one, I reckon the boys from Brazil should stick to making coffee and football and send the Amazonas back from whence it came: deep in the jungle- Tarzan might have liked it I didn't. Alan Cathcart (Australian Motorcycle news)
McMod Amazonas Review
Alan Cathcart (Australian Motorcycle news) Date ??
Small manufacturers of cars generally use other people's engines for cost reasons- You might call this the "Amazonas Syndrome', because there can be no earthly justification otherwise for the creation of the Brazilian Behemoth, a motorcycle so lacking sophistication and finish that you can scarcely believe someone, somewhere, is actually turning them out of an established factory. Russian bikes used to be the means by which we reminded ourselves of the design and construction excellence of latter-day Japanese and most Western European motorcycles. Not now. The Amazonas has amply and that's putting it mildly for a two-wheeler scaling 386 kg dry and with a wheelbase of no less than 1680 mm usurped the Eastern Bloc bikes in this educational role. After seeing photos of the Amazonas in various magazines over the years, 1 was curious to actually see one in the flesh, so to speak. Could it really be as elephantine and grotesque in reality as it appeared in pictures'? And, more to the point, what was it like to ride? 1 finally got the chance when 1 learned that Rainer Koch had secured the European dealership for the VW-powered bike in Germany, so I paid hint a visit. This gigantic motorbike undoubtedly represents the Third Reich's last laugh: somehow it's ironic, yet apt, that it should emanate from South America, post-war bolthole for so many former Nazis. For when he authorised production of the Porsche designed Kdf-Wagen, Hitler probably had no idea that it would represent the only avenue by which his dreams of world domination might be achieved. Fifty years on, literally tens of millions of the rechristened Volkswagen Beetle- have been built, long after the model was dropped in. its native Germany, continues to be churned out in two Third World countries: Mexico and Brazil (Brazil up to 1986 Ed.) Hence the Amazonas. When Daniel Ferreira Rodrigues decided in 1978 that the improving road system of his native Brazil, coupled with its status as the worlds leading debtor nation and consequently prodigious in-import duties on any motorbike not locally produced, called for a large capacity touring machine, he decided to build a 100%. Brazilian bike, using the air cooled flat flat-four pushrod VW engine still being built in large numbers in Sao Paulo. Rodrigues company, AME is based practically across the street from the VW factory from which he buys the. engines complete with four-speed gearboxes. However. instead of using the inherent strength of the car engine as a fully stressed member, AME has constructed a crudely-welded full duplex tubular chassis into which the engine is shoehorned thus adding weight and reducing rigidity. This is typical of the whole design attitude of the Amazonas, whose creators appeared intent on making the bike as massive, as crude. (read cheap) and as ungainly as possible. Look at those evil alloy castings for the footboards, or the brake master cylinder, amateurishly sculptured by hand complete with marry shaky lines where the artisan paused for a slug from the sugar-cane still. Or at the massive front forks, 48 mm in diameter with barely noticeable compression damping and fitted with weighty 10 mm thick cast iron disc brakes borrowed, like the large ATE callipers, from a local Ford car, and twice, as thick (and heavy) as most normal bike brakes. A 28 degree fork angle scarcely improves the steering response, and I imagine that in solo form lugging a bike with such a massive wheelbase round any but the gentlest curve must be a severe test of the riders pectorals. 1 say imagine because after riding his newly acquired Amazonas a Super Esporte model with twin carb (32 mm Solexes nicked from the local Ford Escort parts bin) 1584ce engine, as opposed to the single carb 1600 Esporte or Turismo. Rainer Koch decided that it was completely unsuitable for solo use and decided to fit a sidecar. The fact that part of his business is making these for BMWs proved handy, so when I came to grapple with the Brazilian Behemoth, it was in three-wheeler form (now scaling, a mere 496kg!) which at least gave some measure of security, especially once I had a look at the 5.00.x16 Cargal, crossply tyres. car type covers with practically no shoulder which looked as if they'd send you into the weeds once you tried to lean more than ten degrees from the vertical. Rainer claimed this was the worst thing about the bike when he rode it in solo form, followed closely by the steering. Mind you, those forks are so massive. that while he normally fits his leading fork conversion to the BMWs he attaches chairs to, it wasn’t necessary in the case of the Amazonas! The VWs starter motor is obviously retained so a touch of the button cranks the flat-four into life. Never a quiet motor even under a Beetle back, it's extremely noisy in the Amazonas partly because the twin megaphone exhaust are almost unbaffled presumably to try to reasonable performance out of the beasts measly 67-bhp at 4600rpm, and partly because in spite of the cylinders exposed location in bike use, it's been thought necessary to retain the. huge fan, which sits crossways in front of the engine dominating the frontal aspect of the machine. This whirr’s away to itself, making conversation with the sidecar passenger possible only by shouting. The VW gearbox is fitted with Amazonas' own single-plate cable-operated diaphragm clutch that is reasonably light to use, though the same can’t be said for the VW gearbox, converted to foot change by means of a mechanical linkage that can only be termed crude, and operated by a left-side Italian-type rocking pedal that requires you to remove your foot from the board to use it. Being a car box, it naturally comes with reverse gear, handy in -a sidecar, which you select by means of a special hand lever on the right side, of the bike after obviously coming to a rest first. With the VW crown wheel and pinion, but AMEs own conversion chain final drive (cheaper than making your own hypoid unit for the rear wheel, that’s why), a top speed of just 160km/h is claimed by Amazonas, but it’d be a brave man who’d dare to push the monster’s velocity to those extremes. Somehow the fact that most 25Occ bikes from the Orient or Europe will comfortably outspeed the machine Amazonas proudly trumpets as O Major Moto do Mundo (the biggest bike in the. world) puts it all in perspective. Trundling along at half the claimed top speed with the Koch sidecar attached was a sobering experience, apart front the clutch, all the controls are so heavy you feel you need a Charles Atlas course to be able to ride it. Besides the noise problem, there's fairly considerable drivetrain snatch, caused by the fact that the drive chain is so long and the final drive design so poorly executed, it needs a jockey wheel to be fitted to maintain tension even with the rock-hard rear suspension, itself a primitive layout combining totally ineffective Brazilian-made hydraulic dampers with a primitive plunger type location for the rear axle. However humble the means and facilities at his disposal, your average garage builder can do better than this, When the passenger got out of the sidecar, I found the task of controlling the monster without any chair ballast literally overwhelming. I practically gave myself a hernia trying to keep all 500 kg of it from overbalancing going round right handers. Of course, sheer bulk alone need not pose any problems for you in a bike. But even your experienced Honda Aspencade or Kawasaki Voyager pilot would find the crudity, lack of response and noise of the Amazonas quite daunting. About the only thing it's got going for it is that reverse gear. I suppose a Brazilian bike enthusiast would find our view of the Amazonas insufferably condescending and pompous. After all, you have to do the best with what you've got, right? Right except that by any engineering standards the Amazonas is a disaster. After riding one, I reckon the boys from Brazil should stick to making coffee and football and send the Amazonas back from whence it came: deep in the jungle- Tarzan might have liked it I didn't. Alan Cathcart (Australian Motorcycle news)
Southern Van Officially Full-On Dubber
243 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·
Thanks Steve, I would still love to take one for a spin,it cant be that bad can it? wonder how much you would have to pay for one.
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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome
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Stan Pobjoy set a world record (first man to reach 200MPH through the quarter mile on a bike; I think...?) in 1975 on a 1600cc VW-powered, supercharged drag bike... that's how he got into building VW engines 30 years ago. My mate has a 1980/90s poster of 'Drag Racing Legends' in his workshop with Victor Bray, Read, Sainty, etc and Stan Pobjoy on it...
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