Twin Turbo New Beetle Drag Car!

RodPenrose · 2005-07-30T10:41:20+00:00

Hi my name is Rod Penrose and this is my first time posting on the forum, please be patient as i am still learning how to use the computer! I thought id post a few pictures and some info to dispell some of the rumours flying around about the new car! The new car will based on a new beetle body style that was designed and tested in the VW windtunnel in Wolfsburg Gemany. I purchased the molds for this body earler in the year. It will be a full cabon fibre one peice body which will be mounted over a full chromoly tube chassis. The Engine will be my current 2810cc autocraft engine, which will be upgraded with twin turbos and full electronic engine management and mounted up front. The driveline will consist of a Crower Clutch housed in a titanium bellhousing, with an airshifted 3 speed lenco behind it. The rear end is a Strange full aluminium 9 inch deal with a four link setup. Hoping for 7.7 @ 180mph which might make it the fastest VW in australia! I hope to update this every week with new pictures and info. Hope you enjoy seeing how a race car is built from ground up.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Oct 2005, 12:24 am

#414110

Is that a torsion bar rear end (race3 013a.jpg) in that Rod?
Still keepin the FERDINAND PORSCHE patented designs alive then...😵‍💫

Good work!

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Doug Sweetman Nil Bastardo Carborundum

2,128 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Oct 2005, 10:48 am

#414166

see struts and torsion bars, best of both worlds 🙂

This thing is going to be wild ......

Is it hard to work with the carbon fibre ?

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 4 Oct 2005, 3:33 pm

#414218

went to a speedway expo on the weekend, they use torsion bars on the sprintcars. those ones you have on the back look very similar

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sean68 Officially Full-On Dubber

239 posts · joined Feb 2004 · 4 Oct 2005, 7:16 pm

#414318

work of art....love it 👍
looking good rod
will have to pop in in a couple of weeks to check out the progress

68 Beetle - rebuilding 😵‍💫
65 beetle - driving 😎

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 4 Oct 2005, 8:37 pm

#414356

No, that's an anti rollbar.
I think he will use coilovers in the rear.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Oct 2005, 10:16 pm

#414412

Well htere ya go...You learn something new everyday...I never would have thought a anti-rollbar would be needed on a drag car!!!

Cheers for the clarity Dave....

FUCH your early!

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shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 4 Oct 2005, 10:27 pm

#414416

youll find most doorslammers and prostockers use them thesedays.

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RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 6 Oct 2005, 7:45 am

#414750

The torsion bar at the rear is in fact a front suspension bar from a sprint car , that hs been narrowed and now is used as an anti roll bar . The purpose of this bar is to prevent the car from twisting due to the amuont of torque produced by the engine .I do not know if this will be any advantage on a vw powered car , so if I find that it dosen't need to be there it will be taken off . Here is another view of the set up . Thanks for looking so hard at the pic's and I welcome any questions as some of you people seem interested in the info .thanks ROD.

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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 6 Oct 2005, 9:29 pm

#415017

Totally value this stuff Rod...
It could well be the dream of most of us to one day do something like this, but for now, I for one will live my dreams vicariously through your endeavours!!

Keep it coming!

FUCH your early!

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VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 7 Oct 2005, 7:44 pm

#415300

Mmmmm twin turbo I like it, twice the fun, twice the expence and twice the damage when it blows up.

sean68 Officially Full-On Dubber

239 posts · joined Feb 2004 · 7 Oct 2005, 8:18 pm

#415318

At least he'll be able to see it blow up with the motor up front 😀

keep up with the info and pics on this car Rod as i'm saving it all for my future racecar
definately good reference and research material

68 Beetle - rebuilding 😵‍💫
65 beetle - driving 😎

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 15 Oct 2005, 7:55 pm

#417836

sean68 wrote:You think it will do wheelstands like the last one?

You would hope not. The whole point of a properly built car is to keep it down and travelling forward. Not up!
Leave the holywood to the rice boys.
Fans that want to see wheelies should spend there time at macanats instead of the strip.

JuniorVW Learner Dubber

2 posts · joined Oct 2005 · 21 Oct 2005, 9:44 pm

#420111

Dude i dont know what others think but it dont really look to similar to a new beetle. The gaurds maybe. And isnt the Volkswagon "aircooled" concept a rear mounted engine. Keeping it simple. Remember Volkswagon started out as the "peoples car".

shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 22 Oct 2005, 8:10 am

#420224

JuniorVW wrote:Dude i dont know what others think but it dont really look to similar to a new beetle. The gaurds maybe. And isnt the Volkswagon "aircooled" concept a rear mounted engine. Keeping it simple. Remember Volkswagon started out as the "peoples car".

I thought this was keeping it simple by using conventional racing technology?

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blutopless2 DAMSLO

2,457 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 22 Oct 2005, 9:26 am

#420250

JuniorVW wrote:Remember Volkswagon started out as the "peoples car".

yes they did... but i dont think this drag car was really intended to be a "people's car"... aside from everyone wanting one of course!

see.... air and water do mix 😉

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kroozzn63 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,005 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 22 Oct 2005, 3:25 pm

#420319

well thats all very adjustable isnt it . "looking real good " keep the pics coming

show us your gates

RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 25 Oct 2005, 8:50 pm

#421631

Here are some pic's of the new body complete with doors that I will be using . The new body is a mixture of both carbon fibre and fibre glass , due to extensive research I found out that a full carbon body would be extremely hard to repair as it tends to shatter from an accident . So in case of the unfortunate accident that can happen , the fibre glass will hold the body together making it easy to repair . The down side to this is that it has added about 8-9 kg's to the body making the entire body including strengthening braces and doors 42kg's .ROD.

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jvl054 Wolfsburg Wizard

403 posts · joined May 2005 · 25 Oct 2005, 9:16 pm

#421650

Looks the goods Rod....So Rod have you used a fibre glass backing on the Carbon Fibre?.....Ive used that method with the flooring on my race car.JVLRacing

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 26 Oct 2005, 8:21 pm

#421997

I will tip my hat at the project ( yes that is a compliment) am looking forward to seeing what part of it is VW.

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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 26 Oct 2005, 9:00 pm

#422010

Hey VDubya...

Whats with all these comments about VW bits....Its a funkin drag car for christ sake!

The car is VW derived...

If you check the rules that Rod will be running in, both national and international, the rules state only that the engine be based/derived on an original vehicle design concept (In this case an air-cooled engine), and the profile of the body must be based on a production vehicle (In this case a NB). Obviously, there will be very little actual VW parts in the car... Considering the speeds this car will be capable off and the skills needed to drive it, let alone build it, the configuration is the most logical set-up.

Funnily enough...Just like all the other cars that run in the class.

[ Edited on 26-10-2005 by humpty ]

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shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 26 Oct 2005, 10:54 pm

#422065

i believe the distributor drive is original VW.

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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Oct 2005, 9:43 am

#422122

Now thats funny!
I totally forgot about the distributor drive !!!

he, he..

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VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 27 Oct 2005, 11:48 am

#422155

humpty wrote:Hey VDubya...

Whats with all these comments about VW bits....Its a funkin drag car for christ sake!

The car is VW derived...

If you check the rules that Rod will be running in, both national and international, the rules state only that the engine be based/derived on an original vehicle design concept (In this case an air-cooled engine), and the profile of the body must be based on a production vehicle (In this case a NB). Obviously, there will be very little actual VW parts in the car... Considering the speeds this car will be capable off and the skills needed to drive it, let alone build it, the configuration is the most logical set-up.

Funnily enough...Just like all the other cars that run in the class.

[ Edited on 26-10-2005 by humpty ]

Jumping the gun there son.
I am well aware of the ANDRA rules. I would guess considerably more so than you.

Read the post. I would be interested to know what VW stuff remains. A lot more than most people would think is up to the job.

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shiftyvw Wolfsburg Wizard

523 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Oct 2005, 5:02 pm

#422213

Just curious what parts you believe are suitable to be used Vdubya?

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sean68 Officially Full-On Dubber

239 posts · joined Feb 2004 · 27 Oct 2005, 8:19 pm

#422266

i was wondering when all the negativity was going to start
lets just all sit back and enjoy watching the build and how much effort goes into building a car that's capable of 7 or 8 second passes

cheers
sean

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65 beetle - driving 😎

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2005, 9:48 pm

#422290

Hi

I reckon that body would look great on a late pan as a tough street car.

Steve

VWFREAK VWFREAK

2,577 posts · joined May 2004 · 27 Oct 2005, 10:17 pm

#422330

Your still a crazy bugger Rod, good to see. Can't wait to see her run.

Peter

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Oct 2005, 10:20 pm

#422333

Totally agree Steve.... It has a very sexy profile doesn't it? Though it would problably need to be mid-engined..Check the wheel base...Its huge!

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RodPenrose Insano Dub Head

792 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 4 Nov 2005, 6:10 am

#424704

These are some pic's of the rear end completed with anti roll bar , limit straps , aluminium double adjustable rear shocks with billet lower mounts , 4 link bars and wishbone set up . ROD

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2010 New Beetle 8.12 sec on 8th march 2014
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VWFREAK VWFREAK

2,577 posts · joined May 2004 · 4 Nov 2005, 12:10 pm

#424809

Rod this thing is a work of art. Great job.