Hi,
I'm thinking about replacing my engine- it's a 1300cc.
Questions:
1. how much is a 1300cc engine in good condition?
2. where to you get one in Perth?
3. is it possible to attach a larger engine without replacing all the things the engine attaches to?
Thankyou!
you can put any type 1 motor in your bug, (not sure about the flywheel) someone on here should be able to tell you what goes on there
Hi
I have a 73 1300 beetle and we put a 1600DP in, we changed the flywheel and clutch only because wanted to use the one that was on the 1600.
hope this helps
Marc
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Depends if your tranny is still the original 6V 1200 and if someone has already converted it to 12V (with 12V flywheel and starter)
6V engines have 180mm flywheels and 12V are 200mm.
1300's can be both 6V for the earlier ones (66,67?) and 12V for the later ones.
Tell us your engine number and we should be able to tell you what year your eng is and if it has a 6 or 12V flywheel.
IF it is 12V you should be able to put in any later (larger) engine. If it is still 6V you will have to convert it to 12V to use later engines. (do a search)
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it is a 6V flywheel- the car is almost completely original
Bearing this in mind it is probably best to recondition my engine, or else replace it with one the same.
Does anyone have one, or know where I can get one?
My engine is in good running order at present, but I've been told that the compression is less than ideal and that I should do something about this.
What sort of money is involved, and what exactly would a mechanic do to 'rebuild' an engine?
(idiot's guide please!!!)😵💫😵💫
Go to the back of the car and grab onto the flywheel pulley and push and pull on it, if it visably moves then the bottem end is getting old, if it doesnt you;ll just need to do the topend (pistons, cylinders, vlave job) which you do not need to split the case for.
Also you could buy 1600cc P+C which slip straight into your case, but you cyl heads would need to be bored out (not too expensive) or you could buy some later model 1300 heads.
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It is a 1200cc, not 1300. Sorry everyone, I had been going by the badge on the back of the car. I'll go outside now and see if the flywheel pulley is loose.
Is it very hard to recondition your own engine?
I would suggest that you find a GOOD long established VW workshop near you. Where abouts are you?
Go and talk to them. If your car is very original then leaving the engine the size it is is a good thing for it's value, if not, then upping the size to a 1600cc or 1641cc will make it a lot more easy and fun to drive in traffic.
Unless you've got some mechanical skills, rebuilding an engine yourself is probably not the first thing to do. Start learning by do some simpler things like changing the oil and changing tyres. The other thing is, if you have a good workshop rebuild the motor, they should give you some sort of Garrantee on the motor as well as tuning it for the first little while for not much charge.
Expect to spend around $1500-2000, but remember, once it's properly built it will last for ages (providing you get it regularly serviced) and be really good to drive.
My fave engine builder in Sydney is Hans Klaack. He is in Fairfield at Klaack Motors (in the phone book). Andrew Dodd is well spoken of. Stan Pobjoy is also very good, although quite pricy. Try to find a VW specialist and some one who has being doing it for years.
I'm in Perth.
I spent today getting quotes from two VW specialists- each around $2200 to rebuild the engine, with possible bore out to 1400cc. On Chewy's advice I tried the flywheel pulley, and it is perfectly solid- so I'm probably looking at only the topend being replaced.
Should this impact on the quotation I recieve?
Thankyou.
I'm guessing it would probably be cheaper to get a 1600 rebuilt. There are more of them around and the parts are cheaper too I think. Ask them if you could go that option instead. Just pickup a complete clapped one and get them to rebuild it.
Who were the shops? I'm sure someone on here can give you the thumbs up for the best one.
If they only rebuild the top end I would expect it to be around half that figure or cheaper, but I can't say for sure.nn[ Edited on 17-9-2005 by pete wood ]
volkshop in cannington and volkswest in kelmscott
I think I'll take your advice re keeping the original engine, particularly as I live in the inner city so the car is never driving more than about 10km at a time. (pampered vehicle)
I bought the car because it is so original, so I'd like to keep it that way.
I'll phone them on Monday (which is when the car is supposed to be arriving) and ask for a new quote based on the rebuilding the top end only, and see what they say.
1200 has different flywheel to the 6 volt 1300 as have been down this road and put in a 1300 but still kept the 6 volt system😎
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https://www.facebook.com/FlatFourA good long established workshop ? So why do you not beleive newer workshops have the capacity to build an engine ? My shop has only been open for about 2 months and I work long hours and have to knock back work cause I have too much . I've heard some well established workshops are sacking people due to lack of work . Just be careful what you say it may offend some people .
pod wrote:1200 has different flywheel to the 6 volt 1300 as have been down this road and put in a 1300 but still kept the 6 volt system😎
In what way are they different?
I had a 1200 which blew up and put in a 6V 66 "F" 1300 that has 180mm flywheel. No mods were needed whatsoever, works with the original starter.
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Bug_racer wrote:A good long established workshop ? So why do you not beleive newer workshops have the capacity to build an engine ? My shop has only been open for about 2 months and I work long hours and have to knock back work cause I have too much . I've heard some well established workshops are sacking people due to lack of work . Just be careful what you say it may offend some people .
No offence intended. I was meaning that generally (not always) the best engine builders are either old pros, or people who've been trained by them. They know what they are doing and are willing to stand by their work and back it up with waranties. I'm sure you do a good job, but you have to agree, only time can tell who's work is the best. Sadly, there are many workshops who have not stood the test of time.
Again, no offence intended.
what i mean is the 1200 and 1300 flywheels bolt on the crank differently as one has an o-ring and the other has gaskets , my 1300 came with a flywheel as well so bolted straight up to the gearbox 🙂
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Hi everyone,
Thankyou for helping out- I've checked my beetle in at Volkswest in Kenwick for a rebuild.
