crossmember for EJ20 ??

72RSbug Officially Full-On Dubber

266 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 3 Oct 2005, 9:45 pm

#414074

how come it seems some can get away with not having a crossmember under the engine?
Mine vibrates way to much when starting in 1st gear and I need to make my own crossmember.

All pics of crossmembers for Subaru engines in VW Bugs are higly appreciated.

[ Edited on 3-10-2005 by 72RSbug ]

ricola Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 3 Oct 2005, 11:11 pm

#414098

Probably because people are tying in the framehorns for strength and the stock Subaru engine mounts are so close to the bellhousing/rear cradle anyway...

Rich

http://www.ricola.co.uk

72RSbug Officially Full-On Dubber

266 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 3 Oct 2005, 11:44 pm

#414103

Probably because people are tying in the framehorns for strength

I have done that already, installed a Käfer cup brace but engine still vibrates way to much. Idle is very smooth but when I want to engage 1st gear it wants to break away from the gearbox it seems.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 4 Oct 2005, 11:44 am

#414178

Check your front gearbox mount - sometimes they look okay, but in fact are de-laminated and allow the nose of the gearbox to 'dance'

Pay your debts, CxxT

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 4 Oct 2005, 2:10 pm

#414206

I had exactly the same thing when I finished my car, I replaced the Bowden (?) tube for the clutch cable with a new one, the shuddering went away.
Hope this helps
regards
Jak

ratbug aka toddy101

439 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Oct 2005, 7:02 pm

#414309

I decided to put in a crossmember to use the subaru mounts because it didnt like the idea of all the weight and power hanging off four little bolts (esp. offroad). I put some RHS up each side of the motor (underneath) to support the roll cage and I made the crossmember bolt onto the top of it. I got some pics of the chassis and RHS on my website.
The crossmember is made out of 5mm flat bar and angle in two seperate section allowing it to unbolt without taking the mounts off. To make it, I bolted the engine up using the usual vw mounts, then put a jack under the engine to lift it up a few mm, then tack welded the bits together on the car.

The crossmember

Below is the RHS rail with mounting hole on the left side, subaru mount on the right.

[ Edited on 4-10-2005 by ratbug ]

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ricola Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 4 Oct 2005, 7:31 pm

#414332

What's your website url ratbug?

ratbug aka toddy101

439 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Oct 2005, 10:14 pm

#414410

Sorry, it dissapeared from my profile again, http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~ddat/

Sharbuilt Beach buggy with Subaru 2L Turbo
Thunderanch Riot with Subaru 2L Turbo
Manxter with FA20turbo
Click here for wiring looms

72RSbug Officially Full-On Dubber

266 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 5 Oct 2005, 1:00 am

#414441

thanks for the info and pics, hopefully we'll be able to fabricate something tomorrow and take the bug for her first proper subaru powered ride.

ricola Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 5 Oct 2005, 5:56 am

#414445

Do you have more recent pics of your install other than on cardomain?

Rich

http://www.ricola.co.uk

72RSbug Officially Full-On Dubber

266 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 5 Oct 2005, 6:33 am

#414446

Not really ricola, will make plenty as soon as I have the bug back at my place.I'll try to put new pics up by this weekend if all goes well.

72RSbug Officially Full-On Dubber

266 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 6 Oct 2005, 2:30 am

#414729

problem is fixed 🙂, we attached the stock suby mounts to the VW rear gearbox mount and that does the trick.
I'll try to make some good quality pics this weekend when I have my digicam back.