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kombi-troppo Seriously Crusin Dubber

123 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#424903
Hi, I have a 1600tp in my 74 Kombi. I have no idea what temp it's running at but suspect it's hot. I would like to fit a temperature gauge. I would like something accurate. What is everyone using and where on the engine do you tap into for best results.
Photos would be great but any response is much appreciated.
Thanks.
Karl.
1974 Orange Camoflage Kombi Camper
1976 Yellow Kombi Camper

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#424905
i use a dipstick sender which just replaces the dipstick. its a vdo unit that i got from repco along with the guages
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kombi-troppo Seriously Crusin Dubber

123 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#424973
Thanks "76camper" and "barls".
I think i'll go the tapped into the sump type.
Does anyone have some for sale or know where I could some??

This may sound silly - do volkswagens run with higher oil temps than water cooled engines? I would have thought so - therefore will an off the shelf universal oil temp gauge read high enough to display where a volkswagen would run?? Might be a dumb question but I am new to VW's.
1974 Orange Camoflage Kombi Camper
1976 Yellow Kombi Camper

Mad Manx KombiKroozin

456 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#425004
Hi, I've got a stock 1600tp in my '71 kombi and I have recently fitted an electronic speco water temp gauge using a steel "T" piece where the oil pressure sender is.
Around town its between 75 to 80 deg and on the hiway its between 80 to 95 deg.

electronic sender is the way to go cause then there is no oil lines to run to the front of the kombi.... only a wire.


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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#425011
Yes
air cooled engines run hotter than water cooled engines

The Oil cooler helps keep the temperature down too...

Not sure on the gauges though...

Lee

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Dasdubber DAS Resto Haus

5,746 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#425016
Otherwise a cylinder head temp gauge tends to give you the most accurate measurement of engine temps - especially overheating which will ultimately affect bearing life etc will show up faster at the heads compared to the lag in oil temp increases.

I know I've read stuff on shoptalkforums.com in the type4rum section about the CHT gauges - basically it is a sender that sits under the spark plug - but from memory there is a trick to get it to sit right on the type 4.

I run an oil temp gauge in the sump on my 2L type IV in my beetle - oil temp will be higher in aircooled applications (Same for my old man's flat 6 corvair aircooled engine)....and mine is running high but the engine is hot anyway. I have to sort out timing and tuning issues.
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DoNkEy Wolfsburg Wizard

684 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#425433
do those gauges on eBay come with sender (they do need senders right)?
A temp gauge is something i want to get for the kombi before i start doing long highway driving.

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#425435
they arent that expensive mate i think the small vdo gauges are under a hundred and so is the sender depending on which one you use
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1,945 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#425517
try to sit the sender somewhere where there will be a decent amount of oil flow around it like the sump.
Jon

kombi-troppo Seriously Crusin Dubber

123 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#426427
Dasdubber wrote:I know I've read stuff on shoptalkforums.com in the type4rum section about the CHT gauges - basically it is a sender that sits under the spark plug -
These sound like a good thing - does anyone run one in a 1600 or are these generally left on a wish list due to - oh I dont know - expensive maybe, or difficult to set up.

Has anyone got one - how much - where from??
1974 Orange Camoflage Kombi Camper
1976 Yellow Kombi Camper