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speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#486086
Car has, ball joint disc front end adjustable (stock shocks)and Porsche 914 rear trailing arms with Koni coil over shocks. Car weight is 750kgs. No sway bars at the moment.
OK, I'm getting some alignment work done in the next couple of weeks after changing the rear trailing arm pivot rubbers (now bronze) and a couple of ball joints on the front. What I'm looking for is some basic targets for the rear and front geometry. I've also modified the rear pickup point so as to take out the huge neg camber I had on the back allow some adjustment.
What's your thoughts?
Front caster is fixed.
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#486095
Bronze pivot bushes WTF.


speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#486164
Yeah, new bushes are manufactured by http://elephantracing.com the other option was full poly bush or a needle bearing setup.
What camber do you run in the front Craig?
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#486196
Bronze?! What do you have on teh outer pivot? Where;s the 'give'?

Street or track?

[ Edited on 9-5-2006 by VWCOOL ]
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speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#486246
I don't want no give:P Track.
Bronze bush with a thin outer poly layer (they can't be sure the housing it presses into is concentric) v steel pivot pin.

[ Edited on 9-5-2006 by speedster356 ]

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Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#486267
speedster356 wrote:What camber do you run in the front Craig?
Same as 'Dak To the Future'.................its a secret:P


speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#486271
Here we goooooo.......here we goooooo....here we goooooo.......
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#486378
I think you do want some 'give' otherwise you will get 'bind'!

My car is 1.5 deg camber F, 1 deg R, 5 deg caster, 0 toe both ends. Good road setup, I reckon
Pay your debts, CxxT

Alex Holzl 2332cc of pure BALLZ!!

1,550 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#486684
since when was "daks" camber a secret??? and mind you the suspention is a weee bit different on that car.

alexxx

[ Edited on 10-5-06 by Alex Holzl ]

speedster356 Plastic not Classic Racing

1,624 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#503302
So my results were today
Front caster : 8.4 deg (welded in beam)
Front camber : - 1.5 deg
Front toe in : 1.0mm total

Rear camber : -1.7 deg
Rear toe in : 3.0mm total
Rear caster : can't find the reading!
Spyder-WISD 07-09-05 11.6s @ 125 MPH

Speedster-WISD Nats 05 14.4s @ 89 MPH

Jet cruiser-Coogee 22-09-05 900 deg C @ 110,000 rpm

Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals....................Except the Weasel.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#503304
Looks orroit - but gee that's some caster for a lightweight car!
Pay your debts, CxxT

boof2332 Custom Title Time!

1,210 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#503327
It will not necessarily bind if suspension and steering geomentry is aligned correctly..Ie formula one cars have rod-ends, not bushes.

I need to get mine adjusted also..I have a fair wack of neg camber on the front. Castor needs looking at though as still gets sketchy above 160. Is better since first set of shims.

Matt