type 1 brake callipers

tobys mate Commited Dubber

71 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 29 Jul 2006, 5:53 pm

#516710

hey all its me again just curiouse to know what type of beetle callipers all u sandard beetle equiped users use. do u use the one pin ones or the 2 pin ones was the diff between the 2 apart from the pins cause im at a point where i can use either........

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Jul 2006, 6:25 pm

#516718

I believe the early cars used the single pin and the later cars all had the dual pins...

I've never read where one is better than the other...

Twin pin disc pads could be easier to buy than single pin...
I'm just guessing....
most manuals I have show the twin pin calipers...

they look identical to Me... other than the one or two holes...

Maybe check whether single pin brake pads are still available at Your Local VW shop....

I recently bought a set on ebay...

Lee

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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Jul 2006, 11:40 pm

#516799

Hi

As Lee said the early cars used single pin calipers. The twin pins were only used in 1972 on Superbugs, the L bug and 76 bug used single pin pad that was almost round. The twin pin pad is the largest so it would have the largest swept area, you can also use early Type 3 calipers, these have slightly larger pistons which will give you more bite and will bolt onto your stub axles.

Steve

MISS VDUB Administrator Mrs KOMBIBOB

2,565 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 29 Jul 2006, 11:59 pm

#516806

The single pin pads tend to wear on quite an angle, whereas the twin wears more evenly.
The single pin ones are readily available as are the twin pin type.
Hope this helps!
-Staggers.

1963 Single Cab Ute: "El Concreto"
1962 Baja Beetle: "Peanut"
1968 Porsche 912 SWB: "Pip"
1972 Kombi Snail: "The Snail"
2012 Skoda Octavia Scout: "Scout"
2016 Scirocco R: "Rocco"

seagull Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,979 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 30 Jul 2006, 1:42 am

#516826

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VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 30 Jul 2006, 10:57 am

#516886

lol.. or some other tool

But I think staggers is a bloke

Anyhow, a good bolt-on upgrade for a beetle is the Type 3 twin-pin callipers and the larger T3 rear drums

[ Edited on 30-7-2006 by VWCOOL ]

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tobys mate Commited Dubber

71 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 30 Jul 2006, 5:46 pm

#516966

will type 3 callipers fi with the beetle discs or will i have to change them as well

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Jul 2006, 6:01 pm

#516978

Yes, I'd like to know that too..
very interesting to see the twin pins were actually larger...

I see Mick Motors has both pads in stock.

Did the late type 3s ever have oblong shape, long narrow pads?
My Son bought the calipers etc brand new, so they could be aftermarket too.

Many people use the type 3 rear brakes as they are much larger in diameter, and the drums are wider too.
I don't think a normal driver really needs larger rear brakes.
unless You have a high performance engine etc

I read recently of a VW owner in the US fitting discs on the front of His 78 Beetle and He said the difference was unbelieveable.. [No Beetles had discs in the USA]
He then put discs on the rear and noticed no difference at all.

Lee

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MISS VDUB Administrator Mrs KOMBIBOB

2,565 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 30 Jul 2006, 7:23 pm

#517016

Yeah I'm a bloke (I'm the beloved 'Volkswagenboy'!)
But Ash knows her stuff either way!
-Staggers.

1963 Single Cab Ute: "El Concreto"
1962 Baja Beetle: "Peanut"
1968 Porsche 912 SWB: "Pip"
1972 Kombi Snail: "The Snail"
2012 Skoda Octavia Scout: "Scout"
2016 Scirocco R: "Rocco"

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Jul 2006, 7:46 pm

#517035

Hi

The early type 3 used Beetle discs, the later ones used Type 4 discs which are slightly larger in diameter.

This is the late Type 3 pad.

Steve

tobys mate Commited Dubber

71 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 31 Jul 2006, 6:25 pm

#517375

so the type 3 pads are the same as the beetle ones i think its just the pisten diameter thats different? i think anyways i think the standard brakes are quite sufficient as the car weighs less being a buggy and all anyway who needs brakes they only slow u down right 👍

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 31 Jul 2006, 6:48 pm

#517387

don't worry about monster front calipers. get your bias right...ie, lots of rear bias. type 3 drums will do the trick, and a bias valve in the front circuit.

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tobys mate Commited Dubber

71 posts · joined Apr 2006 · 31 Jul 2006, 8:49 pm

#517479

why do u need bias towards the rear if u dont mind me asking.