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h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#621863
hey fellow bike riders..
i am currently looking at upgrading to another german ride - BMW R 1200GS (current breed)
i am wanting to know if anyone has any good, bad or indifferent views on such an animal..
i would love hear and value any comments re the 1200
cheers for your input
paul

(this german affliction is driving me crazy!.. haha)
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kroozzn63 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,005 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#621879
only that bajas are more fun on the sand....
show us your gates

The Bigfella Officially Full-On Dubber

284 posts · joined Sep 2007 ·

#621881
I know a guy in the States who raves about them. He's had plenty of other bikes - and is a reasonably switched on guy. I've still got my R90S that I bought nearly 30 years ago - so I;m biased to the Beemers too. I guess it comes down to what sort of riding that you want to do. Last bike I rode was a Suzuki Hayabusa - and I've still got the dings in the back of my skull from where my eyeballs hit as I cranked it open. Not the sort of bike that I would like to own.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#621886
Didn't you get an F650GS not so long ago?

If you don't mind that the BMW's are overpriced, then go for it. They are supposed to be very good from all the reviews I've read.

I reckon the new F800GS might be the goods

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#621888
All depends on what you want it for. Are you looking at using it for dirt roads/offroad/touring, have alwayas heard they are the leader for that sort of thing. But if its bitumen would a softer version be any good.

I was looking at getting the f800s as a new ride. Its about as close as i can get to a v twin sporty bike for under 20k. ( don't like the colour of the svthou, don't want another sv650, don't like the vtr and can't afford a duke)......
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#621894
If I didn't want to go offroad, and just liked that style of bike (which I do) then I'd go for the Triumph Tiger. It's pretty damn good value for money;
http://www.bikepoint.com.au/portal/alias__bikepointau/tabID__5760/ArticleID__120589/DesktopDefault.aspx

The Suzuki DL1000 is better value, but the triumph looks better. The BMW R1200GS would be the better dirt bike of the 3.

I think I actually have a comparison in a bike mag at home.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

BiX Veteran Volks Folk

2,499 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#621905
Good point wes, the triumph is a nice bike...


mmmm 675 🙂
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!

OZ Towdster Keen to finish some projects

1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#621921
So your thinking about a new Bike are keen on a KG and looking for a 23 window split , SO YOU OBVIOSLY DID ALL RIGHT BUY SELLING PAWS PET SITTERS AND YOU HAVE KILLED THE MISSUS ????????? 😂😂😂
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel

lohoon Wolfsburg Wizard

466 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#621952
Two guys i work with have both just bought new 1200 BMs.One guy has always had em an was raving about em.They often put up ride day info on the notice board and this day The BMW dude and a Harley rider were the only guys to show.They swapped for a bit and the Harley Guy(who even looks likes a biker)traded his Hog in for a 1200GS the next weekend!!

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#621964
thanks for your input guys..
true, i did get the 650gs a little while back but that was 'always' for my missus,
now as she wants it to ride im lucky enuff to get what i want n better still shes happy to be payin for it..
so cool i say.. ya only live once so try n do what ya want here as theres no reruns - to my way of thinking..
this looks to be a great cruiser and dirt road/off road bike which is what my missus n i want to take to tackle around parts of australia where roads are a bit ??
i like the my07 R1200GS as apposed to the my08s coming soon hense the asking nowish yeah..
i know that they maybe a bit on the exxy side but ive given a few a trial and this has come out ontop for me..
i dont mind the new GS800 but im afraid i'll feel unsatisfied unless i go for what i really want..
im sure some of the hog riders @ work will want to give one a spin if i get one thats for sure.. especially my mate with the MV
n yes aw we were happy to sell our business and yes i still have my missus.. 😁
great to kick a few goals once in a while.. a good feeling hey
thankyou for your input n look forward to anymore..
taa pauly
fractal geometry; the inner most limits of mind altering abuse

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Andy Andy\'s Adventures

2,820 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#622004
The closest I've ridden is a '89 R100GS
I've had quite a few BM's, and the GS was a very nice bike to ride, but the front end was a bit soft and front brake (single disc) a little weak for my liking on the road. Those things made it great off road though.
Just my opinion, and depending on the riding you intend to do, I actually prefer a good touring bike, most will handle dirt roads just fine and be nicer to ride on the road if that's where it will spend the majority of it's time. Also most have a fairing of some sort which makes long trips more comfortable.

Not an option if you intend to do some serious off roading of course, but then a big road trail bike is a handfull to control in those conditions (how heavy is a current 1200GS?), you'd be better off on the F650! (watch "long way round" on SBS Sat. nights to see what I mean)

Dad has one of the last BMW cruisers (they were discontinued a few years back). The motor is a detuned and older version of would be in the current GS, it has run faultlessly for him, ~20,000km so far.
Actually of all the BM's we've had in the family, all have been faultless, including the R50!!

Hope that helps!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#622006
oh my DR 250 is ok !!


Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#622031
I've ridden my friends R1200S street-bike. I didn't like it. Very BMW with lots of weird things (like the blinkers). I think the jap bikes are much better.

I've ridden a friends R1150GS, I didn't like it either. It was heavy and slow, I could keep up with it in acceleration on my 650 V-strom. The R1200GS's are a big improvement on the R1150GS's though (in paper specifications at least, since I haven't ridden the later).
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Andy Andy\'s Adventures

2,820 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#622041
Baja Wes wrote:I've ridden a friends R1150GS, I didn't like it either. It was heavy and slow, I could keep up with it in acceleration on my 650 V-strom.
Must be very differnt to the older GS then, the R100GS feels as light to ride as the old ('84) XT600 I had. At least while riding, try to pick both up and it's a differnt story 🙂

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#622090
The R100GS was 187kg (about the same as my V-strom).

The R1150GS was a rather porky 229kg.

The R1200GS came back down to about 200kg (quite a weight saving from the last model). The new Triumph Tiger is about the same weight as the R1200GS, but more powerful. And cheaper.
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Notch Nut Custom Title Time!

1,011 posts · joined Apr 2006 ·

#622095
I have a 1200 Harley Sportster. I don't get BMW's. Bit like Horses for courses. Each to their own. If I can drive a 40y.o. VW on a daily basis, a harley is considered modern for me (it has a kmph speedo.).
Whatever cranks yer tractor. Either way, I'll still give ya a nod & help if your at the side of the road (motorcyclists will know what I mean).
- Adam😉
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....

rocknrob Insano Dub Head

844 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#622115
Notch Nut wrote:I have a 1200 Harley Sportster. I don't get BMW's. Bit like Horses for courses. Each to their own. If I can drive a 40y.o. VW on a daily basis, a harley is considered modern for me (it has a kmph speedo.).
Whatever cranks yer tractor. Either way, I'll still give ya a nod & help if your at the side of the road (motorcyclists will know what I mean).
- Adam😉
I know what you mean...I've never had a flat tyre in all my years on bikes but if i do i'll be lookin for ya😂

jules_dowling11 Learner Dubber

15 posts · joined Oct 2007 ·

#622123
Hi there, A Beemer...naahhh get a harley! there awesome!!! only kidding what ever your ride stay safe. 😎
Give a Bug a Hug!!!!😍

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#622133
Notch Nut wrote:I have a 1200 Harley Sportster. I don't get BMW's.
Isn't that a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, I mean Harleys are more overpriced and querky than BMW's 😀
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

pickle Slammed & Awesome Dubber

99 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#622553
Buy a KTM! there much better.

Robo Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,491 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#622611
Being a long term BMW M/C owner I feel a bit of an explanation is required about why these things have such a hardcore following. In the 70's if you were a rallyist what options did you have for a mount. Brittish, Jap, and the odd Italian stallion or The BMW. On a 600 mile trip on a japper or britt, it was pot luck if you were going to make it, if you had a Guzzi your chances were a lot better! But if you had a BMW it was a 99.9% reality that you would get there, the other .1 of a % was if you forgot to fill the tank before setting off. Over time the others caught up with better designs and quality control, but the legend of the BMW was firmly entenched. If you wanted to travel big distances with good reliability and in a reasonable amount of comfort the BMW was the one!
I do think they have lost their direction of late with their off road models. They are TOO BLOODY BIG! A friend of mine who runs a BMW only workshop completely rebuilt a sweet little R80GS twin plugged, heated grips, and all the good mod stuff for these models. This would be a fantastic round OZ bike capable of any road/track you want to have a go at, a lot smaller lower weight and if something goes wrong with it you have a chance of fixing it yourself, no computer controlled anything to let you down. Helge Pederson rode one of these around the world on a ten year oddesey, and managed to get it accross the Darien Gap on his own, try that with one of the Tiger Tanks BMW make these days.
I have had my BMW for more than 20 years now and I will still have it in 20 more years, if I live that long!
Rob....
Boxer Power
Member of DMLRK.....Die Mittler Lebuns Resto Komeradschaft

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#622720
They lost their reliability a little. A friend has an R1150GS (or similar, I haven't seen it yet because it hasn't been running) and it's fuel pump died because the strainer bag decomposed. He rang BMW and they said "yeah that happens, the plastic doesn't like Australian fuels". And guess what, the replacement will have the same problem. He's trying to work out how to get a jap fuel pump in there 🙂
Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

Robo Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,491 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#622743
Tell him to talk to Ray Peak. 07 55435962. arguably the best BM workshop in OZ. he is out at wonglepong just up from canungara. Im sure he would have a fix for the problem, the blokes a genious, people from all over the country go to see him. The problem your friend is having is one of the reasons I will never part with my old one. There is too much that can go wrong with the new stuff. They have a shitload more power but with a 100 km open road speed limit in this country what can you do with more than 100hp anyway!
Rob...
Boxer Power
Member of DMLRK.....Die Mittler Lebuns Resto Komeradschaft

Andy Andy\'s Adventures

2,820 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#622899
100hp?
I'm happy with the 26hp of the R50. Still going strong at young age of 52......
🤪



Sorry, couldn't resist.

Robo Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,491 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#622900
I spose with 75 hp that makes me a bit of a excessive hoon then!
Rob....
Boxer Power
Member of DMLRK.....Die Mittler Lebuns Resto Komeradschaft

Andy Andy\'s Adventures

2,820 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#623040
You bet 😍

qldcabmatt Learner Dubber

13 posts · joined Oct 2007 ·

#623511
If we`re talking HP, may i suggest my ride, 160hp on 168kg with 135kph in 1st gear =a hell of a way to get to the shops for some milk

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#623580
🤪 that is crazy man.. totally.. nice ride tho..

well bikers i have ordered something but i will keep a lid on it until i can plaster a pic on here for you all to see.. sweet!
i looked at many and am super happy with what i have picked as me n the missus can go for rides together into the sunset.. hooray!
+ i shall pick it up in mid jan when im back from xmas hols..
roll on xmas..
watch this space.. 😀
fractal geometry; the inner most limits of mind altering abuse

Fantasy http://seventhchronicle.com

Z = Z2 + C1/r = 1/0 = infinity

Barrels www.barrelman.com.au

VW Workshop - aircooledgarage.com.au
allcooled.com.au

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#628719
not long now.. pickin it up next week.. 😁
but thats seems soooo long away..
fractal geometry; the inner most limits of mind altering abuse

Fantasy http://seventhchronicle.com

Z = Z2 + C1/r = 1/0 = infinity

Barrels www.barrelman.com.au

VW Workshop - aircooledgarage.com.au
allcooled.com.au

bugboymatt Custom Title Time!

1,405 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#628724
Come on just tell us !! The week will go faster then with all the chat and banter you'll get on here!
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