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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#653492
After trashing my crank and flywheel at Portland this year, I have been busy in the shed doing the nessasay modifications to my old case so I can run a stock 2.1 WBXer 76mm stroke crank with bolt on full weight flywheel, now that shouldn't come off!!.

Shimo at Dunhams cut the rear main bearing saddle so I can run the std WBXer 3 piece bearing, all the other bearings on the T3 crank are the same as Beetle, I just had to modify the oil gallery for the bearing and make thrust washer locating tangs in the case with a small dremell and it is ready to go in.

The engine assembles just like a normal crank with a bit of care not to loose the inside thrust washer out of its locating tang, once the end float is set and the flywheel is on this in not a problem.

The engine is now all assembled and in the car with just a couple of small items to be sorted.

Here are a couple of photos of the WBXer crank in a T1 case, you will see the crank is not counterweighted 😂, T3 cranks are a lot heavier and stronger than a stock T1 crank and don't suffer from crank flex, the bearings on the engine I pulled the crank out of had done over 200,000 Ks and the main bearings were still good enough to go another 200,000, and the case was perfect.

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#653493
Sweet ... now it just needs a buggy body to go in :>
Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#653495
How hard will you rev it David?
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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#653496
It will probably see 7000-7500 rpm like the old crank did. time will tell!!
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
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colin Fahrvergnugen

984 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#653571
Hpoe to see you there Dave,wouldn,t be a drag meet with out you.

Cheers Col

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#653578
Hi

You can buy 200mm flywheels to bolt straight onto the T4/WBX crank now from CIP or Jake Raby.

I think the WBX was redlined at 6250 rpm from the factory.

I was going to dowel in between the flywheel bolts if I had any issues on my WBX.

Steve

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#653616
I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.

I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)

Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

VWFREAK VWFREAK

2,577 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#653657
Great stuff Dave, goodt to see you back in action.

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#653694
dangerous wrote:I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.

I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)

Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.
love to see the parts list for that motor... 👍

I guess he was using aftermarket rods and special pistonies too. Wonder what the heads looked like?
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#653708
1303Steve wrote:Hi

You can buy 200mm flywheels to bolt straight onto the T4/WBX crank now from CIP or Jake Raby.

I think the WBX was redlined at 6250 rpm from the factory.

I was going to dowel in between the flywheel bolts if I had any issues on my WBX.

Steve
Rod Penrose also has them in stock, stock weight and lights ones, that is where I bought mine from.

I am running everything heavy this time, I will see if it helps off the line with my tall 1st gear.

I am thinking a bit of inertia will help, as I usually leave the line at around 5000 rpm and shift at 7000, once it is up around those revs it stays there and it's just a quick flat change up to the next gear.

It would be different with a roundy roundy track car, where you need the reciprocating lightness for quick power on and off in corners.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
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Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#653771
pete wood wrote:
dangerous wrote:I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.

I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)

Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.
love to see the parts list for that motor... 👍

I guess he was using aftermarket rods and special pistonies too. Wonder what the heads looked like?
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,3257.270.html
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#653805
Nice.................a semi factory stroker 😀


dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#659636
Got it going yet Dave?
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#659642
Yes Dave, in and running, although I have only driven i out of the shed.
FAHRVERGNUGEN;
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Experienced when a car and it's driver are in mutual harmony, A unique driving experience, Pleasure, Satisfaction,
A feeling experienced by Volkswagen Drivers.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#660441
Was thinking about redoing my 1776 with one of these cranks, so I'm very keen to see how it goes...
Best of luck with it Dave...
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