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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#662709
found a pair of 40 IDFs at a wreckers today and picked them up for a criminally low price. someone had hidden them in the back of fasty, I guess to come back and get them, but oh well, you snooze you loose eh! 👍

Anyway, they seem to be off a late alfa 33. The last boxer they released during the 80s. They are complete and in reasonable nic although some of the adjustments on the bottom of the carb seem a little different from some pics of IDFs I looked at on the web.




VS this...



The air bypass and the idle mixture adjustments seem to be sealed off. I guess that's normal for a factory setup.

Are they any good for a VW? or should I put em on ebay?
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#662978
I think they'll be fine as long as you can make the idle mixture adjustment functional, probably just involve drilling and tapping the hole for a mixture screw.
I'm currently running 36idf's on a stock 1600 and their essentally the same as my 44idf's, except for a few minor differences on the idle circuit.

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#662981
By the way, are you sure there 40's?

They really look like 36's.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#662997
x2
im pretty sure alfa 33s had 36IDFs
but still a good carb for a mild bug motor if u get linkages and manifolds

OZ Towdster Keen to finish some projects

1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#663020
The only other drama you will normally have with these carbies is that they are not left and right handed so you will end up with one with the linkages against the firewall which is a right pain in the bum as trying to weld on a linkage on the other side of the carby is agin a pain and seldom works well , so sorry to say Pete but they may not be the bargin first thought , not to mention as noted above they are more than likely only 36's
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#663025
By the time you buy manifolds, linkages, jets to suit, aircleaners with tops and bottoms, and modify for idle mixture screws and air bypass, you may as well buy a new set of Kadrons! (which will outperform the 36's)

Put them on ebay.


Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·

#663035
OZ Towdster wrote:The only other drama you will normally have with these carbies is that they are not left and right handed so you will end up with one with the linkages against the firewall which is a right pain in the bum as trying to weld on a linkage on the other side of the carby is agin a pain and seldom works well , so sorry to say Pete but they may not be the bargin first thought , not to mention as noted above they are more than likely only 36's
If you get a matched set off a car then they are left and right handed. I know I found out the hard way, I got 2 right hand carbs, it didn't matter it was an easy fix. I reversed the throttle shaft and used a weblink.
For me it was a cheap conversion as I had spares of all the other things you need as Craig mentioned, if I didn't then Kadrons would have been a better option.
ps. I don't recomend the Scat push pull linkage.

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#663089
they are definitely 36s. I measured then with my calipers last night. The calipers I used before were someone elses and I wasn't used to them. They are a match pair too. I only paid $100 for them so I don't think I've lost anything. Surely a matched pair of italian webers is worth that. I've got a few mates with a 1600s who might like them anyway so I haven't lost anything. Failing that, I can always use them for a hot 1300 in years to come. 😎
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#663124
You will need new E tubes as Alfas had F57's.
They do not work - trust me.

Hopefully the good news is they come stock with 32 vents - good for 1600's

Your idles are in the top. Better access than the pic of 40's on the side

The bypass is soldered up.
Have heard 2 stories about if this is good or bad.

You also need to modify the joint where the hex bar connects, as you cant connect onto the ball joint as shown
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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#663154
ta, great page there.

I think I'm missing a few screws, but aside of that they seem to be complete. I guess they'll go on a street or dirt khana style 1600. Something where torque is more important than a 9k redline anyway. 😏
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#665721
They are universal webers, not a left and right side only setup because you have idle adjustment screw threads on both sides of carb, my first 40 idf webers were one side only was a PITA but i made a custom linkage and they worked fine.
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