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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#676943
Hi Guys,

Just pondering oil temp senders. I know this has been done before.

What Ive read the thought seemed to be to place a sensor where the dip stick goes on the flat style motor.

On a non flat type case, is there merrit in modifying the case, inserting a couple of studs and making an opening so that a plate with a sensor in it be mounted?

Or would this be a disaster in the making?

Cheers


Newt
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#676951
in a beetle motor ideally the sender unit should go in the sump of the engine
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greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#677038
i put mine into the sump plate easy took it of and had a brass fitting braised in
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#677051
read sump not sump plate

i did the exact same thing as greedy mention and found like most ppl that have done it for some unexplained reason it never gives an accurate reading always too low

move it to the type3 filler block off no dramas at all after that and was verified perfectly accurate

that and i also stopped ripping it off on speed bumps as it was the lowest point of the car in the sump plate

some ppl use a plug that replaces the pressure releife valve plug

Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#677084
Cool,

Thanks Guys.

Newt
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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#677100
Yes,

I'm going to do that mod one day...

just tap the hole in the flat spot and screw in the sender.

I'm not sure what the thread size is...

the VDO number on mine is 320 002

Lee
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#677120
most aftermarket senders are 1/8" NPT

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#677121
im using the dipstick one works fine for me
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#677134
I had one in the rear pressure relief screw thingie

Worked fine
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Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#677327
Im ignorant.

Wouldnt - "most aftermarket senders are 1/8" NPT" - be a bit small?

Cheers


Newt
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#677437
NPT - national pipe thread is some crappy old imperial system

actual thread diameter isnt 1/8" i got no idea how NPT works
but its what most cars use

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#677441
god bless wikipedia


Nominal
NPT Size
1/8"

Outer
Diameter
10.29mm/0.405"

Threads
per inch
27

Pitch
of Thread
0.03704

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1,418 posts · joined Mar 2005 ·

#677505
Joel wrote:NPT - national pipe thread is some crappy old imperial system

actual thread diameter isnt 1/8" i got no idea how NPT works
but its what most cars use
You got it Joel but it really isn't some old crappy imperial thread! It is still the current thread used on pipe fittings in this country as well as many overseas ones. It just depends on which country it originates from. NP = National Pipe thread which of course is the American Standard. Here in Australia, we normally use the British pipe threads which is BSP = British Standard Pipe. If you get pipe fittings from hardware stores here, in most cases they will be BSP whereas auto fittings can be the NP ones. The British system adds a "P" for the parallel thread. The Americans add an "S" for STRAIGHT thread. Both systems also have tapered threads as well as parallel ones eg. BSPT and NPT.

The oil pressure switch on our VW is M10 x 1 as are the brake lines from memory which is only a couple of thou difference in pitch to the 1/8" NPT. I'm sure there have been many NPT and even BSPT been screwed into the oil pressure switch position!!

The bloody Yanks couldn't agree with the Poms on the pitch and had most smaller ones 1 T.P.I different! The OD also varies a bit on most. As Joel mentioned, the size given is the NOMINAL BORE of the pipe.................... but you guys knew that stuff anyway.

A bit of info here for the workshop wall!

http://academic.evergreen.edu/projects/biophysics/technotes/fabric/pipe.htm

DH

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#747839
I know this is an old thread but im getting auges next week and want to get an oil temp, has anyone got pics and explianations for there senders mounted in the current oil pressure spot.

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#747868
Hi

You can just use a T peice, it looks nothing like T but is a bit of brass hex rod that screws into your case where the idiot light is, it has 2 outlets one for the original oil light and an extra for your sender.

I feel the best way to fit one without splitting the crank case is to drill and tap the oil pressure relief valve plug.

Steve