56vw Learner Dubber
12 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
I have just bought a type 1 beetle that has a type 3 motor squezed into it, I alway tought that this couldn't be done ??
type 3 engine in a type 1
RISKY^VW Wolfsburg Wizard
403 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·
nope can be done search the forum and have a look at the other threads
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56vw Learner Dubber
12 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
it is a complete type 3 motor as it came out of a notch back, complete und un modifided ?
aussiebug Officially Full-On Dubber
246 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·
Normally when a type 3 engine case is used to build a bug style engine the upright fan shroud and inlet manifolds from another bug engine are used, so in effect the type3 engine becomes a type1 engine. The only tricky bit if the oil dip stick - there is no hole in that position on the case so a plastic fitting is bolted next to the oil pump to provide a dip stick hole.
But if the type 3 engine is left with it's fan on the rear of the crankshaft it would not fit in a bug without a lot of cutting of the rear valance - it's too long in it's original form.
But if the type 3 engine is left with it's fan on the rear of the crankshaft it would not fit in a bug without a lot of cutting of the rear valance - it's too long in it's original form.
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Starbug rustbag
2,408 posts · joined Feb 2003 ·
my type 1 has a type 3 engine, and as i found out just last week, not only can it be done, but its the same to fix!
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=7171
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=7171
amazer kombi pilot
3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
If it is still in its pancake form and somehow fitted I would like to see how the tinware is sealing at the body, and how the fan is drawing clean cool air.
If it has been done then whoever did it has a lot of time on his hands. It would be far less effort to convert to upright.
If it has been done then whoever did it has a lot of time on his hands. It would be far less effort to convert to upright.
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Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
I would doubt very much that it's a complete Type 3 engine, with Type 3 fam shrouding and tinware. It just wouldn't fit in a Beetle engine bay - the Type 3 engine package is wider and much more square at the rear. Beetle engine bays are curved at the rear.
Type 3 engines DO fit in early Kombi engine bays though. The shape is much more the same. Still some tinware snipping and heater box mods to make it fit though. That was a popular conversion for a few years in teh early '60s, when Kombis came with 1200 engines and Type 3s had 1500 engines. Once Kombis got 1500 and 1600 engines in the mid and late 60's, there was no point.
Type 3 engines DO fit in early Kombi engine bays though. The shape is much more the same. Still some tinware snipping and heater box mods to make it fit though. That was a popular conversion for a few years in teh early '60s, when Kombis came with 1200 engines and Type 3s had 1500 engines. Once Kombis got 1500 and 1600 engines in the mid and late 60's, there was no point.
VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome
5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·
And, as I fopund out the hard way at rego time some years ago, the engien number is stamped on TOP of the T3 case, so is covered by the fan housing when converted to 'upright' T1 spec
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