Heat riser covers

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 19 Jun 2009, 1:40 pm

#719510

My 1300 twin port originally had dual heat risers.(they had been cut off to fit a single riser stock muffler).

I want to go to a single heat riser manifold and I want to know if single heat riser covers will fit straight on to the rear tin.

Because the cut out for twin risers on the rear tin would be bigger, will the single riser covers actually cover the cut outs? Or will I have to change rear tin also?

Regards,

Matt.

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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 19 Jun 2009, 8:27 pm

#719554

Matt,

I have some single heat riser covers you are welcome to try. Give me a holler or call round over the weekend if you want to have a look.

From your ole' mate Jeff

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 19 Jun 2009, 8:33 pm

#719562

Thanks Jeff, that should sort it out once and for all. I'll post the result for others when I find out.

Tomorrow just after lunch would be good. Is that convenient for you?

Regards,

Matt.

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 19 Jun 2009, 8:39 pm

#719565

do u need a single hotspot breast plate matt?
i got 100s of the bloody things

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 19 Jun 2009, 8:44 pm

#719567

Joel wrote:do u need a single hotspot breast plate matt?
i got 100s of the bloody things

Joel,

That's what I'm trying to find out. I'll try Jeff's single covers on my dual breastplate tomorrow. If it's not a good fit I'll give you a yell.

Thanks,

Matt.

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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 19 Jun 2009, 9:00 pm

#719570

Matt,

After lunch will be fine.

From your ole' mate Jeff

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 20 Jun 2009, 2:58 pm

#719636

Turned out the breastplate tin is different with twin heatrisers. Jeff was able to sort me out with breastplate & covers for single riser manifold.

Anybody want the Breastplate tin and covers to suit twin risers just give me a yell.

Regards,

Matt.

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 21 Jun 2009, 12:58 am

#719730

Joel wrote:do u need a single hotspot breast plate matt?
i got 100s of the bloody things

Hi Guys,

I'm not sure what You are talking about... lol

mufflers usually come with the two hot spots for the heaters... one on each side...

or are You talking about the hot air tube that goes to the air cleaner?? most Aussies had One...
Europeans had two...

or the heat risers that go from the exhaust on one side to the other??? heating the inlet manifold???

LEE

PS: maybe I think too much... lol

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Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 21 Jun 2009, 9:01 am

#719748

Lee,

This is what we have been talking about. Two heat riser tubes on each side. They came on late 1600 and 1300 twinport engines. I think the idea was to get more volume of flow, thus reducing the tendency to clog up with carbon.

Mufflers to suit are getting impossible to find.

Regards,

Matt.

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 21 Jun 2009, 9:12 am

#719750

this pics been getting a good run for its money lately 😂

in the mid 70s to try and combat carb icing probs in colder climates vw introduced a new inlet manifold that had 2 sets of preheat pipes
the dealership bulletns i have call them twin hotspot and the old style single hotspot

in aus they were only fitted to the 76 flatscreen bugs and a handfull of the last 1300s apperently
Ive been around plenty of 75Lbugs nearly all with original engines and have yet to come across one with one so you wont see to many of them in existance

they also had to have a redisgned exahust, breastplate and manifold sealing plates as well

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 21 Jun 2009, 9:13 am

#719751

beat me to it matt,
stupid slow photobucket

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 21 Jun 2009, 9:27 am

#719755

Joel,

Do you use Firefox?

If so, there is a good plug in for photobucket you can find it here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10035

It puts an icon in the bottom right corner of your firefox window. When you click on it you can go straight into your photobucket account.

It also lets you right click on any image and upload it straight to photobucket. I've found it saves heaps of time all round.

Regards,

Matt.

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 21 Jun 2009, 4:29 pm

#719803

saw a 74 1300 with that last week at my mechanics place... was a flatscreen drum brake model. crazy stuff. bad turning circle....

Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds

2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 21 Jun 2009, 6:19 pm

#719829

Yes the '71-75 1300 was the 'cheap' or 'budget' Beetle on the Australian market. In those years the Macpherson-strut, front disc 1600 Superbug S, and later the Superbug L, were the 'glamour' Beetles, and they got all the marketing and promotion. However VW Australia added a 'low spec' 1300 Beetle to the range, basically by taking the superseded 1500 swing-axle Beetle and putting front drums and a 1300 motor in it.

In 1974 the Superbug retailed for $2,938 on-road, while the 1300 was $2,699. Most Australian buyers chose to pay the extra $240 for the Superbug, as it sold better than the 1300 did.

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 21 Jun 2009, 6:43 pm

#719847

Hi Matt
I didn't know such a thing existed...
I thought they were only on type 4 engines...
and I've never seen any mufflers like that...
looks like it was a good idea... as singles do seem to be clogging up these days... and its hard to tell unless you blow thru one end...YUK...
I've been trying to think what I could pour thru them to make them non cloggable?? rust free...
My original actually rusted right thru and was blowing exhaust over the fan shroud... Welding it up didn't help with the flow of hot exhaust thru it....

LEE

PS: WOW... I'm still learning about Beetles after 49 years of interest in them... My Dad had beetles & Kombis...

Matt Ryan wrote:Lee,

This is what we have been talking about. Two heat riser tubes on each side. They came on late 1600 and 1300 twinport engines. I think the idea was to get more volume of flow, thus reducing the tendency to clog up with carbon.

Mufflers to suit are getting impossible to find.

Regards,

Matt.

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 21 Jun 2009, 7:06 pm

#719866

Matt Ryan wrote:Joel,

Do you use Firefox?

If so, there is a good plug in for photobucket you can find it here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10035

It puts an icon in the bottom right corner of your firefox window. When you click on it you can go straight into your photobucket account.

It also lets you right click on any image and upload it straight to photobucket. I've found it saves heaps of time all round.

Regards,

Matt.

cheers for that Matt,
im using ....cough... IE ...cough... at the moment, i just havent bothered changing to FF yet as i really need to do a format first

a quicklaunch icon would be great tho, must look into that

cheers

RED62E Officially Full-On Dubber

228 posts · joined Feb 2008 · 21 Jun 2009, 8:26 pm

#719890

What is he hard to get bit?
I have a muffler set up, the big rusty brown one, in the back yard with other gear.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 21 Jun 2009, 9:33 pm

#719923

68AutoBug wrote:Hi Matt
I didn't know such a thing existed...
I thought they were only on type 4 engines...
and I've never seen any mufflers like that...
looks like it was a good idea... as singles do seem to be clogging up these days... and its hard to tell unless you blow thru one end...YUK...
I've been trying to think what I could pour thru them to make them non cloggable?? rust free...
My original actually rusted right thru and was blowing exhaust over the fan shroud... Welding it up didn't help with the flow of hot exhaust thru it....

LEE

PS: WOW... I'm still learning about Beetles after 49 years of interest in them... My Dad had beetles & Kombis...

Hmmmm.... déjà vu 😂

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=76173&page=1#pid709183

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,787 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 21 Jun 2009, 9:49 pm

#719933

Matt Ryan wrote:I think the idea was to get more volume of flow, thus reducing the tendency to clog up with carbon.

Looking at it there seems to be a high pressure take off on both sides and a low point exit pipe on both sides.
They must be seperate pipes.
I think the reason would be to get the same amount of heat (well - in effect twice the heat) but travelling from both directions

I cant see why they wouldnt clog up in the same amount of time.
Just you now have two pipes to clean

Futue te ipsum!!!

Matt Ryan Fahrvergnugen

890 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 21 Jun 2009, 11:11 pm

#719972

Bizarre wrote:
Matt Ryan wrote:I think the idea was to get more volume of flow, thus reducing the tendency to clog up with carbon.

Looking at it there seems to be a high pressure take off on both sides and a low point exit pipe on both sides.
They must be seperate pipes.
I think the reason would be to get the same amount of heat (well - in effect twice the heat) but travelling from both directions

I cant see why they wouldnt clog up in the same amount of time.
Just you now have two pipes to clean

Yeah,

That sounds more likely, I was just having a guess. They look a lot harder to unblock too!

RED62E

The mufflers are hard to get new. They weren't in production from the factory for long and after VW stopped supplying them as a spare part I don't think it has been profitable to reproduce them as it is so easy to convert back to the single style because "everyone" makes those.

There's probably NOS ones floating about in Europe but I've never heard of reproduction ones.

For the same reasons, I doubt if you could get the inlet manifold and tinware new either.

Lee,

A day where you don't learn something is a day wasted.😂

Regards,

Matt.

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