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matt Insano Dub Head

743 posts · joined Dec 2002 ·

#721172
i am after some info on what i should do to turn my 1970 type 3 wagon into a "cheap" off roader or rally car (if i cant sell it). I have limited funds for this project.
any info would be great
matt

shaihulud Custom Title Time!

1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#728292
Hi Matt.

What you need to do is to increase the ground clearance. The front and rear suspensions in a Type 3 are adjustable, so that's not too difficult. I'm sure that there are threads here about how to do that.

Fit a strong aluminium bash plate under the engine and gearbox. Make sure that it protects the push rod tubes and the rocker covers. Cut oil drain holes in it.

If you want to, remove the body and fit a lift kit to the pan. In most states 3 inches is the legal maximum. That may need permission from you local registration office. That requires some 2x3 inch RHS, some welding and some design inventiveness on your part.

Of course, fit bigger wheels and tyres. I would not recommend light truck type off road tyres, unless you are going to bash your way across big gnarly rocks, as on road they are too hard and they don't pouch down much when you reduce tyre pressures for sand. Good quality passenger style off road tyres will give a good on/off road compromise. Generally speaking, don't make the front wheels and tyres too big or with too much offset, as you can affect the steering. Just make sure the the tyres don't interfere with the bodywork on full jounce and/or steering lock.

Legally you can only increase the offset of new wheels by 1/2 inches each side, have 6 inch wide rims and one inch bigger or smaller in diamater from stock. In WA you can have only one size difference between the front and rear tyres. In SA that may be two sizes. Check that. If you want the small front, big rear look, you could fit, say, 205 60 15s to the front and 215 75 16s to the rear and still be road legal.

To look the part, fit a nice tube steel front bumper with a set of big flood lights, maybe a winch, or a way to loop a big fat tow rope onto the front. Keep in mind that "they" are about to ban roo bars on cars, so make sure that it doesn't look too much like a roo bar, even though it will be one. Fit a very strong place to attach the tow rope to the front. To the front chassis/torsion bar tubes is best if the front bumper is not super strong.

On the rear fit a tube steel bumper that has foot rest places for helpers to bounce you out of trouble and a couple of hand holds onto the roof, or maybe a very strong roof rack. Fit a strong tow bar while you are at it. Be careful, as it will need to comply with the regulations.

If you need to remove some of the edges of the mudguards to fit the big tyres, weld a steel rod to the new edge and roll the metal over the rod to get a safe rounded edge.

I also suggest that you get a copy of Jeff Hibbard's book Baja Bugs and Buggies. It's printed by HP Books. It's full of good ideas. It will cost you $40. Your local book seller will be able to get it for you.

Good luck. Keep us informed an I am thinking of doing something similar and I'd like to see what you do.

Richard.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#728416
I wouldn't do a body lift on the type 3. Plus the engine mounts are on the body which will complicate the process somewhat. I have seen some type 3 Baja's. They normally cut the body to clear the bigger tyres, and fit 4x4 style wheel arch flares to cover the wheels.
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shaihulud Custom Title Time!

1,448 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#728417
Thanks for that feedback Wes.

I wasn't sure if a body lift on a Type 3 was a good idea or not. Also fitting rubber 4WD wheel arch flares would be a lot easier and cheaper.

Matt.

One more suggestion. Fit steering brakes to the hand brake system. They will get you out of all sorts of trouble and are really cheap to build and fit.

Richard.

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 ·

#737153
theres a local auto elec buisness that used to race a baja type 3 wagon with a one peice fibre glass front and 2l
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PHAT BUG Dave says Bini's a fool

1,698 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#1031943
Digging up an old thread, any Baja Type 3's on here??

wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Feb 2013 ·

#1038779
Possibly something in the pipeline... More info next week...😎
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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Feb 2013 ·

#1038846
Not going to go totally BAJA but will make it suitable for getting to the surf.....😂

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wombatventures Wolfsburg Wizard

680 posts · joined Feb 2013 ·

#1038847
First job get the engine running...
Second Job cut some rust...
Third job get it registered...
Forth Job enjoy the ride! 👍
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Bone Officially Full-On Dubber

299 posts · joined Aug 2009 ·

#1039014
We had Baja's in the late 80's but my brother also had a early wagon in the early 90's he took to Fraser Island.

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PHAT BUG Dave says Bini's a fool

1,698 posts · joined May 2003 ·

#1039670
My Baja Fasty............









Still a way to go with it, need to sort out RGB rear end for it next.