rose doin it for d girls
2,036 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·
Interesting little write up in the newspaper today
colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good
2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·
Ian told me you dont read the newspaper... just go on avd...
Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds
2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·
This is one of those topics that gives a different answer depending on how you measure it.
The best-selling 'single model' is NOT the Volkswagen Beetle, much as we might want it. It is the Toyota Corolla, with 35,000,000 sales over nine generations since 1966. Second is the Ford F-series, with 32,000,000 over eleven generations since 1948.
Third is the VW Golf, with 26,000,000 in five generations (the 6th went on sale recently) since 1974. The Golf overtook the Beetle in 2002.
Fourth is the Beetle, with 21,529,464 from 1938 to 2003. Now people have often said that the Corolla, Ford F-series and Golf have been redesigned a number of times and aren't the same car, while the Beetle has had the 'same body and design' since 1938. Unfortunately that isn't true. The Superbug was a major redesign, with different body, suspension and name, and it was sold alongside the torsion bar Beetle. If you count the Superbug as a 'Beetle', then you have to count the Golf 1-6 as the same car too. Nowadays people only count 'nameplates', whether or not the vehicle has been redesigned. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bestselling_vehicle_nameplates
In any case, the Ford Escort has now passed 20,000,000 and will pass the Beetle in the next year or two. The Fiat 124 isn't far behind, and even the VW Passat has now passed 15,000,000.
The good news is that VW does not count other cars built on the Golf platform, such as Jettas, as Golfs even though they are actually Golfs with boots. You could add 26,000,000 Golfs and 6,600,000 Jettas to get 32,600,000 'VW Golfs' - getting close to top spot again.
The best-selling 'single model' is NOT the Volkswagen Beetle, much as we might want it. It is the Toyota Corolla, with 35,000,000 sales over nine generations since 1966. Second is the Ford F-series, with 32,000,000 over eleven generations since 1948.
Third is the VW Golf, with 26,000,000 in five generations (the 6th went on sale recently) since 1974. The Golf overtook the Beetle in 2002.
Fourth is the Beetle, with 21,529,464 from 1938 to 2003. Now people have often said that the Corolla, Ford F-series and Golf have been redesigned a number of times and aren't the same car, while the Beetle has had the 'same body and design' since 1938. Unfortunately that isn't true. The Superbug was a major redesign, with different body, suspension and name, and it was sold alongside the torsion bar Beetle. If you count the Superbug as a 'Beetle', then you have to count the Golf 1-6 as the same car too. Nowadays people only count 'nameplates', whether or not the vehicle has been redesigned. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bestselling_vehicle_nameplates
In any case, the Ford Escort has now passed 20,000,000 and will pass the Beetle in the next year or two. The Fiat 124 isn't far behind, and even the VW Passat has now passed 15,000,000.
The good news is that VW does not count other cars built on the Golf platform, such as Jettas, as Golfs even though they are actually Golfs with boots. You could add 26,000,000 Golfs and 6,600,000 Jettas to get 32,600,000 'VW Golfs' - getting close to top spot again.
donn Wolfsburg Elder
3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
But the "beetle" has a very unmistakable and unique body shape, so I think most people would clasify it as the same design.
I dream of a day when a chicken can cross a road without being asked for it's motive!
amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism
3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·
When Corolla went front wheel drive they needed to retart the count. I assume escorts are front wheel drive now too. Apart from that, they used the same Escort nameplate on different cars at the same time in different markets. Are they counting them as one? Are the F-series a car or a truck. Is it one model? big difference between a F100 and F250-350 (I parked next to a 6L turbo V8 diesel the other week. Strange sounds)
To me the difference is that you can ask any kid or grandmother what a 1938 beetle is or a 2003 beetle is and they will be able to tell you that its the same car, struts or otherwise. Not so many people will be able to match up an original corolla, escort or F series to the latest model.
To me the difference is that you can ask any kid or grandmother what a 1938 beetle is or a 2003 beetle is and they will be able to tell you that its the same car, struts or otherwise. Not so many people will be able to match up an original corolla, escort or F series to the latest model.
annosL Officially Full-On Dubber
378 posts · joined Dec 2008 ·
Dead right Amazeer, Air-cooled, rear drive, beetle shape with some updates, for65 years! Ricers have complete configuration change with same nameplate, piffle!!
polak Everything is alright with enough Vodka :P
913 posts · joined May 2009 ·
WOW!!! Camry hibrid proudly made in OZ!!!! thats awesome!!!rose wrote:
hahaha jokes😂 as neither a camry or a hibrid is a car 🙂 hmmm try and dig it up, but im pretty sure iv got an old docco on the production number of the beetle and then the golf.... from memory the golf has much exceeded the production numbers of our humble beetle...... meh ignorance bliss i say..... long live the beetle!!! "air-cooled power, water is for pussies"
VW - helping put oil back into the ground for over 60 years
pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome
6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·
sorry, I thought you were refering to the porsche story at first. had to look twice. 😁
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/