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beachbuggy61 Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#753973
Hi all, I hope you can help.
I have a 1641 t/p with a W110 cam and 1.25's and I can't seem to get the tappets to run quietly!

I've had varying advice; from "VW's always run 6 thou and never any other setting or you'll get valves riding", to "put up with it cos you've got a cam and it's part of life", to one place I saw that they recommended no clearance when stone cold.

I'd like to get it quieter if I can without sacrificing compression and/or riding valves.

Any advice?

Many thanks,
Marc
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beachbuggy61 Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#753974
Oh, and I've tried to search the Tech Talk forum subjects but no luck.

Thanks.
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#753979
What have you got them set at now??

Do you know what sort of push rods you are running cro-moly?? or stock ??
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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#754034
HI, i have a 2054 running chromoly push rods and still run .006" tappet clearence, the best way to sent the tappets is to check them hot and work backwards to get the clearence that your engine likes, if the engine has .012" clearence hot then set the tappets to .000" cold so when the engine heats up and grows you will have .006", you must remember that the air cooled engine has no water jackets to quiten down the engine and will make more mechanical noise because of this.

OZ Towdster Keen to finish some projects

1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#754036
Also check you are setting the tappets at the right stroke ie # 1 is at top dead centre , set number one , wind motor backwards 180 deg , set #2 and the same for 3 & 4 turning the motor back another 180 deg only between each cylinder
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alien8 Wolfsburg Wizard

521 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#754046
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#754050
not to tappy otherwise they just pound away the top of the valve stem

ive always set bone stock twin port heads to 0.10mm/4thou and never had a problem. keeps them nice and quiet and not to tight. some manuals say 4 thou but some say 6 for T/P heads

Tighe cams recommend that the gaps for the model of cam i run in my 1776 be set at 8 thou for ex and 6thou for intake

different cams and ratio rockers seem to chuck stock specs out the window

Special Air Service Chief "Gunna"

1,769 posts · joined Oct 2004 ·

#754166
OZ Towdster wrote:Also check you are setting the tappets at the right stroke ie # 1 is at top dead centre , set number one , wind motor backwards 180 deg , set #2 and the same for 3 & 4 turning the motor back another 180 deg only between each cylinder
Whats the theory behind turning the motor backwards? Does it make any difference? or am I reading too much into your answer?

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mackaymanx Custom Title Time!

1,611 posts · joined Jan 2006 ·

#754172
It makes no difference if you go backwards or forwards, but it changes the order you adjust the valves in.
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beachbuggy61 Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#754383
Bizarre wrote:What have you got them set at now??

Do you know what sort of push rods you are running cro-moly?? or stock ??
Have them set at 6 thou at the moment, running stock pushrods.

Thanks.
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beachbuggy61 Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#754385
Thanks everyone. I've definitely been setting them at TDC for each cylinder using the "do #1 and turn it backwards" technique so I'm confident the settings are consistent.

Will check them hot and go from there I think.

Thanks again for the input, will let you know.... 🙂
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beachbuggy61 Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#754644
Wound up with 4 thou. Still a little tappy but much better than they were.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

Cheers, Marc.
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