A gearbox question...

1916baja Custom Title Time!

1,990 posts · joined Sep 2007 · 7 Jan 2010, 4:17 pm

#756211

If i have a 1600 kombi box and it has the guide thing over the spline in the centre does that make it an early box or late box? and what size clutch do i need? 200mm?

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Mick.

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 · 7 Jan 2010, 4:29 pm

#756215

Ummm... isn't a Kombi 1600 box just a Kombi 1600 box.... as in no early or late ???

Pretty sure they used the same basic bits as a late beetle... pressure plate (200mm), clutch plate, throwout bearing etc.

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1916baja Custom Title Time!

1,990 posts · joined Sep 2007 · 7 Jan 2010, 4:35 pm

#756218

oh ok, i don't know... I was at mick motors the other day and i told him what i had and he asked if it was a early or late 1600 kombi box? he said one has the guide and one doesn't. Problem is i can't remember what was what.

Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 · 7 Jan 2010, 4:39 pm

#756222

Yeah I could be wrong too Mick.

The one I have came out of an Kombi 1600 that was IRS, and it had the little sleeve/guide over the input shaft... same as an IRS Beetle.

Figure we'll find out one way or other when dangerous get's on - he'll know for sure !!!

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1916baja Custom Title Time!

1,990 posts · joined Sep 2007 · 7 Jan 2010, 4:46 pm

#756224

yeah, I'm hoping to order my stage 1 kennedy clutch tonight from the states so i hope he gets on here soon😀

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 7 Jan 2010, 5:15 pm

#756231

the sleeve just detemines which clutch kit u need
the trannys without sleeves need a pressure plate with the collar fitted and with a sleeve no collar

they ditched the collar and fitted sleeves starting in 71 with bugs and type3 so im guessing busses are the samewhich is proabbly where the early/late thing comes from

altho most clutch kits now are universal and have the collar which can be removed if used in trannys with sleeves

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 · 8 Jan 2010, 8:39 pm

#756452

Joel is correct,
the guide tube normally indicates a "late" clutch.(even though 1971 was a long time ago).
type one engined normally have a 200mm diameter.

Luckily the Kennedy has a removable ring, as Joel said.
Eary trans use the ring and later ones it is removed easily.

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