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Breather Box/Catch Can????

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Surfsup Learner Dubber

10 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#796344
Ok, not sure about this, I am just finishing building an 1835 and I am trying to work out if I need a breather box, its basically an new motor but I have been getting conflicting info on if I should install a breather box/catch can or not. My local VW guy is saying I don't need one and they will attract dirt in the area around the filter

I was thinking of installing breathers on the rocker covers to a breather box with a return to the oil filler and a couple of filters on the breather box.

Any info would be appreciated.

jsheppard64 Officially Full-On Dubber

323 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#796357
I get oil blown out of front pulley
so i put a home made catch can made from left over fence post
inside is stainless steel wool which i stole from my kitchen
no more oil out front... but mine has massive blow by because i didn't get a new pair of heads when i rebuilt it

Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#796362
I give up. How do old heads contribute to blow by?

Aso, how does a catch can reduce front leakage? Is it a pressurisation issue?

Cheers

Newt
It is as it is - If you didnt enjoy today, you've missed the opportunity.

Carter Seriously Crusin Dubber

104 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#796777
old head might mean the rings don't seal as well, therfore combustion gasses enter the crankcase?? maybe?

and it is definately a pressure issue. if the crankcase isn't vented well enough, oil will leak through seals all over the place.

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#796800
Heads have nothing to do with crankcase blowby, thats the pistons and rings. He might be referring to combustion leakage between heads and barrels???

Newt Wolfsburg Wizard

478 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#796897
Do we vent breather boxes or are they a closed system?

Newt
It is as it is - If you didnt enjoy today, you've missed the opportunity.

71-BEETLE-SEDAN AKA Josh

1,058 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#796907
Vented i do believe.

Steve and Dave Carters bug has a good and explainable set up, i dont have any pics but im sure someone will have a good factory diagram, 68 autobug maybe.

jsheppard64 Officially Full-On Dubber

323 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#796919
I vent it to inlet just above the carb.

I don't know why i said heads when i meant pistons barrels set
I only replace the rings and bearings lol

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#796957
what size jugs? on that 1835. if its 92mm theres your problem.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

Surfsup Learner Dubber

10 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#796982
Yep they are 92mm pistons, I don't have any problem yet as I haven't fired it up yet just trying to find out anyone else experience and if its something I might need to look at doing,

waveman1500 Also rides a Honda

1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#796992
In my opinion a breather box/catch tank is really only a band-aid solution, any streetable VW engine in decent condition shouldn't need one. The stock hose venting to the inlet is more than adequate unless you have fairly serious blowby issues. Also, bear in mind that venting crankcase gases to the environment constitutes polluting emissions, and therefore is generally illegal on cars built after 1971. On pre-'71 cars you may be able to get away with venting a breather box/catch tank to atmosphere.
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#797000
waveman1500 wrote:In my opinion a breather box/catch tank is really only a band-aid solution, any streetable VW engine in decent condition shouldn't need one. The stock hose venting to the inlet is more than adequate unless you have fairly serious blowby issues.
the stock hose is great for what it's designed for yes......STOCK applications

Carter Seriously Crusin Dubber

104 posts · joined Oct 2008 ·

#797109
i also don't know why i said heads have anything to do with piston rings.... long night haha