Suspension mount issue....

jigga Officially Full-On Dubber

249 posts · joined Oct 2007 · 19 Sep 2010, 1:52 pm

#803115

Hi all..

Ok i have a type three and am replacing he suspension. The problem that I have is that it appears the bottom mounts have a steel sleeve rusted/stuck over the top of the main mount.

If im correct, it looks like the steel sleeve that is on the inside of the rubber bush on shocks absorbers. I think the old ones were that knackered that when the previous owner ripped the shock out the sleeve stayed. Problem i have is that my new shocks wont go on. I have Kyb shocks. I have tried a lot of wd40 and degreaser, chisel and hammer and also multi grips. has not budged at all.

Any tips here?

The others thing is I could the wrong and the sleeve is meant to be there and my shocks just dont fit... mmmm

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 19 Sep 2010, 3:42 pm

#803125

jigga wrote:Hi all..

Ok i have a type three and am replacing he suspension. The problem that I have is that it appears the bottom mounts have a steel sleeve rusted/stuck over the top of the main mount.

If im correct, it looks like the steel sleeve that is on the inside of the rubber bush on shocks absorbers. I think the old ones were that knackered that when the previous owner ripped the shock out the sleeve stayed. Problem i have is that my new shocks wont go on. I have Kyb shocks. I have tried a lot of wd40 and degreaser, chisel and hammer and also multi grips. has not budged at all.

Any tips here?

The others thing is I could the wrong and the sleeve is meant to be there and my shocks just dont fit... mmmm

I believe the steel bush is from the old shocks and can be cut off with an angle grinder..
most round mounted shock absorbers come with a rubber mount with a steel sleeve in it...
it seems the previous owner ?mechanic? couldn't get the old one off... ??

I have seen the steel bushing stuck on the shock mount stud and have cut them off with an angle grinder....

cheers

LEE

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jigga Officially Full-On Dubber

249 posts · joined Oct 2007 · 19 Sep 2010, 4:29 pm

#803131

Thanks lee... I was going to do this.. but feared that was meant to be there.

So the main section (non threaded section) is that same diameter as the threaded section?

If so, it will see a grinder asap...

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 19 Sep 2010, 7:17 pm

#803154

jigga wrote:Thanks lee... I was going to do this.. but feared that was meant to be there.

So the main section (non threaded section) is that same diameter as the threaded section?

If so, it will see a grinder asap...

the thread is slightly smaller in diameter than the shaft...
the shaft should be about 16mm thick
as the id of the bushes on shocks are 12mm...
12mm and 16mm od... on the front shocks I have here..

the Outside diameter of the steel bushes on the shocks are usually around 16mm

-cheers

LEE

- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 19 Sep 2010, 7:51 pm

#803158

had the same issue 🤓

Grind enough off on one side to leave a little then chip the fine amount left to open it up with a chisel and hammer...

Even after grinding it, the heat and vibration usually makes it loose enough to just wench it off...

The are VERY stubborn at times... as you no doubt are experiencing lol.

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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 19 Sep 2010, 8:04 pm

#803163

+1 on the grinder.
yep just grind almost through and just tap it off with a chisel or pry it off with vicegrips.

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vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 · 19 Sep 2010, 9:22 pm

#803196

You could just cut the old bolts of and splurg out on some new one's, grade 8.8, you will probably find that they are corroded under the sleeve, when you fit the new shocks use some neverseize on the bolt's shaft and thread so it can be removed in future

jigga Officially Full-On Dubber

249 posts · joined Oct 2007 · 20 Sep 2010, 9:06 am

#803258

Thanks for th replies.. So all kyb shocks should just be a straight fit up then?

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 20 Sep 2010, 9:08 am

#803259

As long as they are the roght model for the front and type of beam on the bug... just slide right through 👍

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New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!