biggest fan

bugzla Custom Title Time!

1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 29 Dec 2010, 1:55 pm

#818881

what the best fan to use and the messurements of it and can you buy them aftermarket or do I have to buy a good second hand one, as my heat in my buggy is extreme after a good run 120 deg c or do i add a external cooler

cheers
Stevo

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 29 Dec 2010, 5:34 pm

#818899

1302 or 1303 is the biggest there is mate.

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bugzla Custom Title Time!

1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 29 Dec 2010, 6:52 pm

#818909

i find that there is not enough air coming out where the oil cooler im sure there was much more in my other cars ill try another fan housing a original one and see how i go, my question is how big is the biggest fan just to see if i have one that big allready in place
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stevo

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 29 Dec 2010, 6:54 pm

#818910

no idea off the top of my head but there was only 5-10mm difference in the 1600 ones from when i did my conversion a few years ago.

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 29 Dec 2010, 7:23 pm

#818915

Make sure you dont have a single port fan in there.
it's a common mistake and sounds like the problem.
Those are dangerzone temps your running

There is only one size fan for doghouse/twinport engines.
Like barls said the single port fan looks the same but is about 1/4" shorter at the oil cooler end so keeps the cylinders and heads cool but nukes the oil through lack of air flow

bugzla Custom Title Time!

1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 29 Dec 2010, 9:08 pm

#818928

thanks guys ill sus it ill take the cage and engine out sometime this week thanks again hopefully i have a replacement 🙂
cheers
stevo

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2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 · 31 Dec 2010, 10:01 am

#819086

If there is not much air flow out of the dog house cooler you need to check that the cooler is not full of crud, this could be the problem

bugzla Custom Title Time!

1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 31 Dec 2010, 10:24 am

#819089

thanks man ........thought of that also so it will also be checked when out on the floor

bugzla Custom Title Time!

1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 31 Dec 2010, 10:28 am

#819090

i do remember something when i put the fan in the housing and it hit the inside front of the fan housing so i had to bend it alittle maybe i have a single port doghouse housing is that possiable

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 31 Dec 2010, 4:00 pm

#819127

bugzla wrote:what the best fan to use and the messurements of it and can you buy them aftermarket or do I have to buy a good second hand one, as my heat in my buggy is extreme after a good run 120 deg c or do i add a external cooler

cheers
Stevo

HI
when My Son bought Me an alternator it had a fan on it...
and naturally I thought it would have been a doghouse fan..
so, I installed it without checking....
I then went into hospital for around a month [summer]
and My Son drove My beetle a bit...
I then found the High temperature paint over the heads had peeled off..
after pulling everything apart I found My generator had a doghouse fan and the alternator a non doghouse fan...

so, now the paint doesn't peel off...

a doghouse fan cannot be fitted to a non doghouse fan housing. its too wide...

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 31 Dec 2010, 4:17 pm

#819129

bugzla wrote:i do remember something when i put the fan in the housing and it hit the inside front of the fan housing so i had to bend it alittle maybe i have a single port doghouse housing is that possiable

I have had a doghouse fan shroud on My single port engine and now have the original fan shroud back on and am using an external oil cooler...

I really believe I should have just fitted a new doghouse oil cooler
and the fan shroud etc... but..!!

maybe I will do that one day in the future....
just the way Volkswagenwerk intended.... lol

LEE

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 31 Dec 2010, 4:26 pm

#819131

barls wrote:1302 or 1303 is the biggest there is mate.

and the 1976 Non Super beetle...

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 1 Jan 2011, 9:13 am

#819183

Single port engines were dropped in aus during 1970, everything after was twinport using the same doghouse fan, including all the 71-75 1300 standard "non super beetle"

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1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 1 Jan 2011, 9:41 am

#819186

okay this is the thing got a motor no fan housing had a few sitting around got one got a genny with a fan put it on how do i find out what is a single port fan housing and what is a dual port fan housing none of these fan housings are numbered or pulled by myself of engines so i do not know what they are off is there any clear indication what the differences are between the two housings

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9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 1 Jan 2011, 6:01 pm

#819234

Just measure the blade area width

doghouse fans are 38mm like this
A single port fan would only be about 30mm

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1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 2 Jan 2011, 8:29 am

#819307

thanks joel

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1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 2 Jan 2011, 8:39 am

#819308

noticed also you have a way bigger gap between the fan and the alt tin ware this could be the cause of the problem cause the fan measures the same........ when i look back at lees pics it sits the same as hes

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9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 2 Jan 2011, 12:00 pm

#819336

The fan gap is just shimmed to suit the shroud, if the gap is too big or small the fan will rub on the shroud

bugzla Custom Title Time!

1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 2 Jan 2011, 12:10 pm

#819340

even with a qwick spin of the gen on the housing you can feel the air so it should be all good now just have to wait till it stops pissin down here

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 2 Jan 2011, 10:07 pm

#819426

Sook😂

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1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 3 Jan 2011, 2:52 am

#819448

hey boof head we all havent got a shed as big as house you know .................... heard u got a good deal on a set of headers the other day yo doing a air cooled engined car please tell 😉

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1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 3 Jan 2011, 9:38 am

#819478

the new housing is on and it blow a gail through the oil cooler awesome thank you so much for ya help everyone cant wait for a test drive .......................... back under the house i go to strip apart another motor for parts for another 😂 when does it all stop

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 3 Jan 2011, 1:51 pm

#819504

yeh....1 aircooled with a steroid engine😵

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1,164 posts · joined Jun 2007 · 3 Jan 2011, 6:52 pm

#819538

the amazing things you find in that shed of yours ................................ man o man

MickH Hairy Gutted Sloth

3,389 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 3 Jan 2011, 7:12 pm

#819541

Got another Manx on Friday as well....it never ends😂

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