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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#829298
I am changing the heads on my 1916
I really dont want to turn it into a major rebuild.
To be honest - I dont want to turn it into a minor rebuild, but #3 is "pssst-ing" when you start it up.
Seems to be a crack in the thread area as the plug has a carbon V on it

Anyway - should I put a gapless top ring on it when I pull the motor.
Was going to hone the barrels.

Motor has done about 80,000kms
Futue te ipsum!!!

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#829307
yep u MUST hone and take the lip of the top of the barrell other wise the rings wont bed in as such and it will b pissssing again
I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true


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66brm Seriously Crusin Dubber

140 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·

#829311
The gapless rings usually go on the second groove, let the std first ring take the brunt of the work and have the second ring set seal the blowby in

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#829338
The pssting is coming from the crack at the spark plug i reckon
Futue te ipsum!!!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#829345
The pssssst is usually the head to barrel seal but a badly burnt head at a plug crack could obviously do it too. Why do you think it needs new rings? Gapless on second is more the go if you want to, or just hone and rering with a quality set of rings, beware, some are junk and luck to make it onto the piston!!!
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#829355
Matt

That is exactly the point

I am throwing up between
1) taking the heads off and putting the new ones on
2) step 1) + honing the barrels and putting them back on
3) step 2 + new rings
4) step 3 + a new mortgage

due to the carbon mark I am pretty sure of the source
Futue te ipsum!!!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#829359
just put the heads on.😉


matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#829362
If it's not burning oil and the barrels are relatively clean externally and on disasembly not disturbed, I'd setup CR and throw on the new heads. Sometime it's necessary to remove the p&b's just for cleanup, decarbon and check over. The thing is, it'll really depend on what you find on disassembly, at 80k km things may be more worn than you think and need to be replaced or be fine and a clean is all they need.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE