super bug adjustable struts

scot70wagon Wolfsburg Wizard

543 posts · joined Sep 2010 · 7 Jul 2011, 8:32 pm

#850533

have a 74 super which needs lowering in the front. what are the options? have seen everything from empi to v force. need some honest opinions on what people are using.

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Super1302 Officially Full-On Dubber

361 posts · joined Jul 2008 · 7 Jul 2011, 8:54 pm

#850541

i got mine from vintage vw in the 90's, mine are still good. and i can get a deal on kyb shocks for them too from a supplier. replacements.
i think possibly v-force, might take a while as he makes to order.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 7 Jul 2011, 9:03 pm

#850546

You need to look to be 100% sure if you have 2 or 3 bolt
Also work out what wheel you want to run.
If it is 6" or wider you will need thin springs

Personally I have/like/recommend V Force
The way the $$$ is importing a set of Maxx struts could be ok
http://toplineparts.com/pricelist/pricelist.htm

By the time you put inserts in the MaXX Extreme I reckon the V Force would be better/cheaper

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 7 Jul 2011, 9:22 pm

#850551

im using the vforce and cant fault them. very nice ride

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STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Jul 2011, 10:38 pm

#850568

have been in a car with the cheap topline option, was nice, but too soft to run more than an inch or so lower than stock without tyres rubbing (colonel mustard)
whatever joel is sunning currently/3months ago, felt nice, especially for the lowness of it
myself i have V-force, undriven but went with that after various opinions & the pitiful dollar helped the decision too

IF you go down & chat to richard you will probably end up going that option too, local after sales support may come in handy for you if anything needs adjusting
you can get them from basic coilover to, helper springs with hard springs, different levels of inserts & adjustable tops 🙂

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 7 Jul 2011, 10:48 pm

#850575

Those are my old struts in colonel mustard yeah?
stock springs were their let down, firmer springs and they would be a winner.

Still Topline Maxx in mine but I've got some stiffer springs from Richard to chuck in them.

STIDUB Over it.

1,497 posts · joined Jun 2008 · 7 Jul 2011, 11:06 pm

#850581

indeed, but attempting to say its more worthwhile than a camera lense etc is fighting an uphill battle 😢

yours seem to be a decent combo, bang for buck wise 👍

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scot70wagon Wolfsburg Wizard

543 posts · joined Sep 2010 · 7 Jul 2011, 11:25 pm

#850586

just to clarify, i spoke to boris who,s option was to drop down 2 inches the spring carrier and upgrade the insert. which would be an economical option. the empi ones i,m a bit sketchy on simply because they are empi. Sherman does a set of adjustable ones with lowered inserts for around the 440 mark and i believe the vforce ones are about the 1100 mark.i will be running 5.5 inch flat four sprintstars with 135 michelins. are the sherman ones better then then the empi ones, are the v force ones really necessary for a street car. once the front end has new struts should you change sway bar thickness or stay with the original size?

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 7 Jul 2011, 11:32 pm

#850588

ive got the original sway bar with the vforce struts. they are well worth it, trust me.

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 8 Jul 2011, 9:41 am

#850629

scot70wagon wrote:just to clarify, i spoke to boris who,s option was to drop down 2 inches the spring carrier and upgrade the insert. which would be an economical option. the empi ones i,m a bit sketchy on simply because they are empi. Sherman does a set of adjustable ones with lowered inserts for around the 440 mark and i believe the vforce ones are about the 1100 mark.i will be running 5.5 inch flat four sprintstars with 135 michelins. are the sherman ones better then then the empi ones, are the v force ones really necessary for a street car. once the front end has new struts should you change sway bar thickness or stay with the original size?

With sprint stars you can stay stock spring size so no need to go OTT with narrow coil struts.

Are Shermans struts definately adjustables?
I know he has always sold fixed height lowered ones but didn't know if he was now making adjustables.

all depends on how you drive as to whether a sway bar upgrade is good value or not.

I've got a 7/8" topline lowered swaybar on mine and it's night and day but I do push it pretty hard through corners and once you get below a 2" drop the stock sway bar throws castor out the window.

Also not worth working the front too much without doing some upgrades to the rear.

Rear sway bars are abit of a problem at the moment unless you buy overseas.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 8 Jul 2011, 11:15 am

#850648

scot70wagon wrote:.i will be running 5.5 inch flat four sprintstars with 135 michelins.

brave man 🙅

Just lower the cup then
There is no need to go to the expense of the thin springs

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scot70wagon Wolfsburg Wizard

543 posts · joined Sep 2010 · 9 Jul 2011, 6:44 am

#850831

shermans adjust in 2 inch increments. up 2, down either 2 or 4 inch. i have not seen them but the rest of his conversion stuff seems highly rated. as i drive fairly sedately the front end drop is more an aesthetic thing not based on overall cornering ability as the 135 look good but have their limitations in any hard cornering situation. if you drop 4 inches is it mandatoryto update to an adjustable swaybar as i remember them as being a pain in the ass from the old ford mcpherson strut front end i used to muck around with in escorts. basicly i want a decent ride with the front nice and low. i have spoken to a few guys who reckon to lower the cup will result in an unsatisfactory ride. Obviously the v force struts are primo but i suppose the two lesser costing options are what i,m looking at at the moment, down the track i can always upgrade. Modified standard or shermans?

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Jul 2011, 8:46 am

#850839

Scot
you NEED to check if you are 2 bolt or 3
2 bolt only goes a 2" drop
3 bolt can do 4"

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colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 22 Aug 2011, 5:24 pm

#858410

STIDUB wrote:indeed, but attempting to say its more worthwhile than a camera lense etc is fighting an uphill battle 😢

Priorities and interests change friend 🙂

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 22 Aug 2011, 6:05 pm

#858415

Who the bloody hell are you? 🤪

colonel mustard Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,829 posts · joined Feb 2009 · 24 Aug 2011, 10:03 pm

#858742

a wiser man.

Hi Joel!!! hope you are well 🙂