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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#851401
I'm about to fit new quarter window seals, however from a number of sources it states i need to bust the rivet and replace when refitting.

can i replace the seal without doing this in a fashion that isn't bodgey?

if i do destroy the rivet, are they readily available to replace? is there other hardware store rivets that can be used that look tidy?

thanks,
Chris.
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#851416
yeah just get new rivets

grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#851417
Why not undo the screws that retain the upper bracket & slide the window out to fit the seal?

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#851441
the upper bracket has two other rivets that retain it, not screws.

Note: its a 69' bug. the earlier ones (pre 65) have different vent window seal fitting methods. The frame with the seal, and the vent window comes out of the door together on the later bugs.
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grumble Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,672 posts · joined Jun 2008 ·

#851459
No I mean the screws that retain the bracket in the door,remove these and slip the window out,fit the rubber over the pin,slip the bracket into the slot in the rubber and refit the screws, then fit the rubber into the frame.

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#851463
When I replaced mine I drilled out the 2 rivets that hold the hinge to the outter frame under rubber where it sits inside the door so you dont see any of it and normal 1/8" pop rivets work.

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#851479
I have done quite a few quarter vent windows on VW and old Holdens. I prefer to keep the original 'pivot rivet' and drill out the two rivets that hold the bracket to the frame. They are under the rubber and dont move, and are not seen, so you dont change any originality of looks or engineering.
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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#851480
lovely. thanks guys sounds like a plan 👍
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New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!

aircooled10 Learner Dubber

14 posts · joined Apr 2010 ·

#851643
Chris.
Ive replaced the quater vent rubbers.You can get the original style rivets for the top pivot from Wolfsburg west.I drilled them out and used a centre punch too replace the new rivets.They also come with a replacement fibre washer.

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#851654
bajachris88 wrote:I'm about to fit new quarter window seals, however from a number of sources it states i need to bust the rivet and replace when refitting.

can i replace the seal without doing this in a fashion that isn't bodgey?

if i do destroy the rivet, are they readily available to replace? is there other hardware store rivets that can be used that look tidy?

thanks,
Chris.
Yes Chris,
the rivets are available...
I have seen where the rubber seal is cut instead of taking the rivet out and glued with super glue...
and some NOT glued back at all.. lol
I have seen stainless steel screws used... with flat heads
allen keyed etc... but its a strange size...

cheers

LEE
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