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XXX-1.8T Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,113 posts · joined Oct 2002 ·

#865683
Shazza needs new rear shocks 🙁

As you know she is slammed at the back 2 notches so need something short and gas.

What do people use on their slammed rides?

KYB GR2 v Bilstein v Koni v Pedders Black Touring

Do Bilstein and Koni do a short shock?

Keen to know thoughts im fine with a firm ride i just dont want it to bottom out on the ride.

Had some Emp Oil shocks and I binned them as they were crap!

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#865710
KONI & BILSTEIN are the rolls royce of shocks..

so long as you have the rubber bump stops still there

any gas shock or heavy duty shocks should do...

remembering that gas shocks will push your car upwards
where oil shocks don't ... they just absorb shocks up or down..

measure how long your shocks need to be...
extended and closed...

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

Uber Kafer Wolfsburg Wizard

414 posts · joined Nov 2009 ·

#865795
as mentioned above, if bump stops are still in place then the stock length shock will do.

Dont forget BOGE shocks if you dont want gas filled, BOGE are original fitment on VW, Porsche, etc.

XXX-1.8T Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,113 posts · joined Oct 2002 ·

#865805
what do i need to measure?

Do you want me to measure guard to the ground or centre of wheel to guard?

Will this help determine if i need a standard shock or short shock?

narumi I'll do it tomorrow

138 posts · joined Aug 2011 ·

#865866
I had a pair of gabriel red ryder in the back but they were a bit too firm but I got them for like $25 second hand
now running empi adjustable which were too soft(shocks) for my liking but then again I got them for a bargain.

and I think... Lee meant measuring the centre of the shock absorber bolt hole top and bottom when extended and close.

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#865919
I run KYB gas adjust on all my cars, had bilstiens at one time but each set had one shock that started to leak after about one year, the KYB's on my green car are about eight years old, last time i had them of the car they seamed as good as new

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#865928
I have a pair of gabriel oil shocks

11 inches hole to hole when closed up

445mm hole to hole opened up

sorry about the different sizes.. lol

so they look like good for long and Short rides..

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

XXX-1.8T Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,113 posts · joined Oct 2002 ·

#866167
vwo60 wrote:I run KYB gas adjust on all my cars, had bilstiens at one time but each set had one shock that started to leak after about one year, the KYB's on my green car are about eight years old, last time i had them of the car they seamed as good as new
What are your thoughts on the Gas adjusts?

On the Samba they say they are too stiff and GR2 is the best compromise?

I was at Classic and will get a pair of GR2's

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#866194
I found the GR 2 to soft, i have the gas ajusts on both of my cars including my karmann convertable, both ride excellently, far better than the bilstiens that i had on two other beetles.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#866197
those GR2 shocks look OK to Me

most gas shocks I have seen are too hard..

but by reading the reviews etc they seem OK

especially for the rear of My beetle..

cheers

LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#866210
There is a lot of myths surounding gas shocks, you cannot judge them until you have had them on your car, it might not be the shocks making the ride hard but your tyre choice or some other modification that has been done to it. GR2 are a replacement for a standard shock, the gasajust is a perfornace shock

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#866215
whats the word on koni performance stocks? (yellow ones)

The bilstein seem to be the most expensive so why do some people say they leaky crap while others say they are the bomb?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

57oval Officially Full-On Dubber

305 posts · joined Oct 2006 ·

#866294
vlad01 wrote:whats the word on koni performance stocks? (yellow ones)

The bilstein seem to be the most expensive so why do some people say they leaky crap while others say they are the bomb?

Expensive??

http://www.eshocks.com/bil_Ind.asp?VC=5Q73&SubChar=Q

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#866337
more expensive than the other 2 brands is probably a better way to put it.

109 euro each isn't expensive for a shocker?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

amazeer Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,029 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#866555
I had the KYBs gas on mine at first. Admittedly I was a bit rough on them with a fair amount of 2 wheeling but I bent them. Never had a problem with the konis.

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#866570
vwo60 wrote:There is a lot of myths surounding gas shocks, you cannot judge them until you have had them on your car, it might not be the shocks making the ride hard but your tyre choice or some other modification that has been done to it. GR2 are a replacement for a standard shock, the gasajust is a perfornace shock
the GR2 sound good for the rear of My car....

I have some used monroe gas shocks on the front and they are excellent... very pleased with them...
hope I can get another set for spares...

Lee
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#866594
monroe are good as a stock replacement. peders is crap. fail pretty fast 👎

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#866608
the front KONI are $650 a pair and the rears $520
adjustable konis...

Konis are excellent shocks... great price for KONIs..

KYB are also great shocks but now the rolls royce of shocks..,

LEE

Late model front shocks these days are VERY expensive.. as nearly every car has different shocks..???
to fit the different springs..
and they are not konis.. lol
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#866621
late model? ❓

Yeah the adjustability of it may have something to do with the price.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE