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EA82T - Abandoning Water Cooled!

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habib99 Casual Dubber

33 posts · joined Feb 2011 ·

#870565
Hi fellow H2Oers,

Having brought my Speedster replica over from the UK with me I have finally been beaten by the NSW rules and regulations regarding modification and have decided to strip out all my EA82T stuff - gutted but as an import I just can't get it registered with all its other myriad modifications so going back to good ol' air cooled.

So having spent hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars on the conversion I can offer advice about EA82T, Megasquirt driven fuel and ignition (100% programmable ECU). I will consider selling off the complete kit if someone's interested. Otherwise I will probably hold on to the stuff and put it into a Aussie VW at some point in the future - if I do I will post the project here 🙂

Habib

General_Failure Use your head, don't abuse it!

1,036 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#870590
Honestly if I were you I'd hold on to it. Maybe others would know if there would be a problem with the engine number.

It's a crying shame that you couldn't use it. Aussie laws are designed to grind original thinkers down to dust unfortunately. What I don't get is that to register a kit car like that wouldn't it need to be engineer certified anyway? I mean if your mods are all kosher wouldn't that have been approved too because an engineering signatory inspection is a whole car affair after all.
If at first you don't succeed. Build, build again.
Vehicle: 1975 Special order delivery walkthrough panel based LCA pop-top camper. Motor: Nippon 1.8L Single port Wasserboxer, Transmission: 3 rib 002.

habib99 Casual Dubber

33 posts · joined Feb 2011 ·

#874181
Well if it doesn't sell I can feel myself using most of it . . . . thinking that I will create a fuel injection ECU controlled big aircooled engine. It will pass the untrained eye as an 'beetle' engine - as long as I don't turbo it I think I might get away with it.

trigger wheel
throttle position sensor
oil temp
airflow inlet meter
injectors - inlet manifold(s)
coil pack
Megasquirt ECU

Job done 🙂

General_Failure Use your head, don't abuse it!

1,036 posts · joined Jun 2004 ·

#874319
As long as the original vehicle was FI. They don't like carb'd engines being converted to FI, without engineer certification that is. If it weren't the case I would have built a modified Falcon TBI setup by now.
If at first you don't succeed. Build, build again.
Vehicle: 1975 Special order delivery walkthrough panel based LCA pop-top camper. Motor: Nippon 1.8L Single port Wasserboxer, Transmission: 3 rib 002.

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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#874321
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habib99 Casual Dubber

33 posts · joined Feb 2011 ·

#875153
General_Failure wrote:They don't like carb'd engines being converted to FI, without engineer certification that is.
OK, OK, I'm getting the picture. . . .

There are MANY brilliant things about life in Australia, the RTA's over regulation of modified cars is not one of them!

habib99 Casual Dubber

33 posts · joined Feb 2011 ·

#875420
OK, so I let all my MS and EA82T stuff go to a great guy who has enough of a sense of adventure to make it work. and enough projects to keep most of us busy for a couple of decades! Swapped for an hard core daily driver aircooled unit -so it's official, I'm going back to the 'light side', servicing every 5K and expensive rebuilds - ahh well, aircooled is what got me into VWs in the first place so guess I've been forced to go full circle.

bye for now fellow H2Oers, "I'll be back" . . .

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#875538
Just out of interest why did you move over to Oz?

As for the ADR and RTA and all the transport authorities of Oz they are all lazy retarded rednecks. If you actually use your brain then there is nothing wrong with EFI'ing a carb engine. More power yes but far better emissions too.

There are also very few engineers out there that seem to actually have an education in what is structurally a good design or modification.

Take a subie motor in a beetle. The engineer is lazy and says it requires disc brakes all round but if you take into account the much lighter weight of the vehicle compared to the donor car then during a brake test, that has to be done for the brake mod anyway, you'd find that some vented discs up front and drums on the back works perfectly well.

The regs maybe there to stop idiots using chicken wire to hold there car together but at the same time they allow GM to stick a V8 in something that handles like a boat.

Rant over, and such a shame your speedster won't be the same. I hope the lack of response and power from the aircooled don't spoil your enjoyment of the car 😉
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍

habib99 Casual Dubber

33 posts · joined Feb 2011 ·

#875563
Weather! 🙂

and don't get me wrong, I do love it here - over regulation is a bugbear of mine at the best of times.

anyway, thanks for the empathy, I will enjoy the car - one way or another!

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#875566
habib99 wrote:Weather! 🙂

and don't get me wrong, I do love it here - over regulation is a bugbear of mine at the best of times.

anyway, thanks for the empathy, I will enjoy the car - one way or another!
Qld weather is nice for 7 months of the year 2.5 of the other months are tolerable but 2.5 of humidity is not so much. Have you just moved here or been here a while? I'm not so keen anymore but married a sheila.

Oz is full of over regulation but no actual definitive legislation from my several encounters with different bodies.

Anyhow, really hope the speedster is up and running again and soon for ya. Looking forward to getting my 1200 59 Bug started too 🙂
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DubCrazy Custom Title Time!

1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#875576
habib99 wrote:OK, OK, I'm getting the picture. . . .

There are MANY brilliant things about life in Australia, the RTA's over regulation of modified cars is not one of them!

haha i hear that being an ex pat i do miss what you can do to cars in the uk but i hear they are tightening ther belts now which in some cases is not the worst thing in the world, as much as i liked seeing V8's shoe horned into minis with drum brakes its a tad dangerous!!!! haha


steff.....
Life with out a v-dub is no life at all!!!!!

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#875579
DubCrazy wrote:
habib99 wrote:OK, OK, I'm getting the picture. . . .

There are MANY brilliant things about life in Australia, the RTA's over regulation of modified cars is not one of them!

haha i hear that being an ex pat i do miss what you can do to cars in the uk but i hear they are tightening ther belts now which in some cases is not the worst thing in the world, as much as i liked seeing V8's shoe horned into minis with drum brakes its a tad dangerous!!!! haha


steff.....
A decent MOTer wouldn't pass that anyway if he had any sense. Even in Oz it can be fine to stick a 1918 T1 lump in a drum braked Beetle and thats OK but not if it's a different manufacturer. Not always the case but I;ve seen it done.
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habib99 Casual Dubber

33 posts · joined Feb 2011 ·

#875619
hah, yep the ol' V8 mini or bug for that matter, with drums all round!

I used to get MOTs with a blind eye turned to what was probably not kosher because of an element of admiration for some of the engineering (and a bit of Welsh solidarity probably) . Been out here for 10 months, no intentions of going back to the UK (yet/ever)

Speedster will be rocking the streets of Kiama NSW in a few weeks if I can just get a couple of weekends on it! . . . (story of the last 5 years). Planning a new interior and paint job to over the next 6 months, if I can't have stupid turbo power, then I'm at least going to make it look and feel good!!!

59 1200, sweet - good luck with it.

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#875624
psimitar wrote:Even in Oz it can be fine to stick a 1918 T1 lump in a drum braked Beetle and thats OK
beg to differ but any drum brake car would require a brake up grade to discs before putting a larger motor in

There are plenty of earlies running round with big donks in but they would not have been approved
Futue te ipsum!!!

DubCrazy Custom Title Time!

1,295 posts · joined Jul 2003 ·

#875630
psimitar wrote:A decent MOTer wouldn't pass that anyway if he had any sense. Even in Oz it can be fine to stick a 1918 T1 lump in a drum braked Beetle and thats OK but not if it's a different manufacturer. Not always the case but I;ve seen it done.
i'll argue that to, now bear in mind i've been out here for over 10 years but it used to be a 147 point check and as long as everything was as required it didnt matter what brakes,engine etc u had...there was no law stating u had to upgrade brakes, or not allowing you to make ur own chassis etc etc etc... i had the police mobile mot lorry pull me over in my home built sand rail running a 2.0 pinto engine with drums and they ok'd everything bar no windscreen wipers( had no windscreen either lol) but u get the idea.... i know they have brought new laws in and its getting harder to do such things but still not as bad as here..

to be honest as much as main roads here is hard work i get what they are trying to do, i've seen some bloody scary creations in the uk that were bloody damn right dangerous..

steff...........
Life with out a v-dub is no life at all!!!!!

psimitar Son of Jim - Creator of Good

2,506 posts · joined Jan 2009 ·

#875662
Yea swings and roundabouts between the 2 countries but the Oz rules seem to have been written by someone with very little knowledge of vehicles plus so long as an engineer signs off on the mod, using the ADR as a rough guide, then the written word doesn't really matter. It depends on the engineer and thats stupid too.
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