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Aussie Dubbin Fahrvergnugen

895 posts · joined Jul 2008 ·

#873725
Hi lads,
i was aout to put the ingine in my car when i remembered that i need to put more tinware on than i am used to. My other bugs i have had baja and buggy havent needed much tin. This is the firsttime i am putting an engine into a beetle.

I have the fanshroud and the barrel covers on top, the ones between the barrels and the pushrods. ut then what...
Do i need one on the flywheel side ... above
under pulley?
Around the pulley?

I have replaced the rubber around the engine bay

WHat do you do about the big holes used for the heaters and other?

Sorry that they sound like noob Qs
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vwsteve karmann crazy

2,087 posts · joined Jul 2006 ·

#873733
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donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#873740
Ok, mine's a buggy but every time I take it to Nymeyers' at Belmont (VW specialists) he berates me with the information that "you should have ALL THE TINWARE on, THEY WERE MADE THAT WAY FOR A REASON", mind you I do have all the tinware on, he just wants to remind me, I reckon on a beetle it would be esential. 😵‍💫
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Sides Veteran Volks Folk

2,220 posts · joined May 2007 ·

#873742
Proven this many times myself, but basically if you leave ANY of the tinware off and the engine will run hotter.... period.

If you're only doing short little runs (eg hillclimbs or lapdash) then not having the piece above the flywheel (front plate I think it's called) or the one above the exhaust (breast plate) plus the one under the pulley probably aren't critical... but then they don't weigh much either, so if you've got 'em I reckon put em on.

Also there are two little vertical pieces at the back of #2 and #4 that you need to have... they cause the air to go right around the cylinders.

About the only piece I'd ever leave off is the one ABOVE the pulley, and that's only cos I can never find one that's clean and fits !!!

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#873749
Sides is onto it. Don't take any off, you'll find your probably missing some anyhow.
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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#873751
U need them all to make it run at the correct temp
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#873774
It still blows me away the amount of bugs around you see missing the breast plate, one of the most important pieces for stopping the fan sucking in all the hot air off the heads and muffler.

All these non-vw savvy mechanics must just thing meh I can see the ground in every other cars engine bay, over the back fence you go.

You can always pick which bugs will be missing them, it's usually always convertibles or old shitters with carerra kits and a whale tail.

MISS VDUB Administrator Mrs KOMBIBOB

2,565 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#873775
Put all the tinware back on and block the holes off!
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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#873799
Aussie Dubbin wrote:Hi lads,
i was aout to put the ingine in my car when i remembered that i need to put more tinware on than i am used to. My other bugs i have had baja and buggy havent needed much tin. This is the firsttime i am putting an engine into a beetle.

I have the fanshroud and the barrel covers on top, the ones between the barrels and the pushrods. ut then what...
Do i need one on the flywheel side ... above
under pulley?
Around the pulley?

I have replaced the rubber around the engine bay

WHat do you do about the big holes used for the heaters and other?

Sorry that they sound like noob Qs
YES.. YES.. YES..
You need them ALL....

ALL the HOT AIR MUST remain below the tinware... that is what the rubber seal is for....

Basically.. You should NOT be able to see the road when looking at the engine... ALL holes should be blocked off..
using anything You can fit in the holes...

LEE

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68AutoBug Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138\% - YIKES --

11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#873800
Sides wrote:Proven this many times myself, but basically if you leave ANY of the tinware off and the engine will run hotter.... period.

Also there are two little vertical pieces at the back of #2 and #4 that you need to have... they cause the air to go right around the cylinders.

About the only piece I'd ever leave off is the one ABOVE the pulley, and that's only cos I can never find one that's clean and fits !!!


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Hi Dave

that one does nothing???

and they take a bit of grinding to fit an alloy pulley...

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greedy53 Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,062 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#873817
the clever guy that designed the tin ware was no fol sit back and look inside the engine bay there should be no gap between the sides and engine,the idea was to only get cold air from the top of the engine lid not the hot stuff below the tinware
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MISS VDUB Administrator Mrs KOMBIBOB

2,565 posts · joined Sep 2005 ·

#873824
... and never paint your engine bay red and yellow, that helps too 👍
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4,980 posts · joined Dec 2003 ·

#873829
MISS VDUB wrote:... and never paint your engine bay red and yellow, that helps too 👍
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