does anyone know what remote reservoir will fit on a standard-beetle dual circuit mastercylinder? We want to put a remote reservoir on an early beetle as the single reservoir in the wheel well needs to be retained but its a case of one pipe needs to become two feeds to the inlet of the master cylinder.
For example this
http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/brake-fluid-reservoir-for-servo-master-cylinder-j11250.html
is for a baywindow kombi but I dont know if it will fit the standard beetle dual circuit master cylinder.
So if anyone knows for certain what will just drop in there it would solve our problem.
thanks.
I put this link of the one I have just done to my car in your other post, but here it is again. It uses a beetle res mounted on the inner 1/4 as per stock. Also CSP do a kit I believe.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91358&page=11Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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thanks Mat. The link is a bit weird but I will peruse your thread in the morning.
The young fella is keen to get the 56 rolling around the yard with all the brakes and pedals working. We have a nicely restored 1200 to plug in to the transaxle. But he wants it done this weekend without having planned it fully. We are hooking up a late beetle reservoir (one of my really good original spares 🙁 ) but need to do the long term fix..
Found some good info on this site about Golf Mk1 reservoirs etc. And I will check out your other tips.
All good fun.
Uber Kafer wrote:does anyone know what remote reservoir will fit on a standard-beetle dual circuit mastercylinder? We want to put a remote reservoir on an early beetle as the single reservoir in the wheel well needs to be retained but its a case of one pipe needs to become two feeds to the inlet of the master cylinder.
For example this
http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/brake-fluid-reservoir-for-servo-master-cylinder-j11250.html
is for a baywindow kombi but I dont know if it will fit the standard beetle dual circuit master cylinder.
So if anyone knows for certain what will just drop in there it would solve our problem.
thanks.
check out windscreen wiper connectors...
two into one... a tee or a Y piece
into the twin master cylinder..
I remember getting a Y piece [wiper hose connector]
don't know what I used it on??
I don't know what hose You would use to join them up...
Joel said He just used some sort of common hose to join the pipes and had no problems with it..
even a good quality rubber hose [fuel] or even the clear type hose may work... [works when doing the brakes]
and least its not going to fail in a day or two...
LEE
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
I was discussing this with my engineer when he came to blue plate my seatbelts and he said that unless you are using an OEM manufactured part then it is not ADR compliant.
Also, just using a t-piece to make the single reservoir feed both circuits is non-compliant as for dual circuit the reservoir must have segmented reservoir for the event of a major fluid leak in one circuit.
I had even made an alloy reservoir that mounted directly into the MC and was fed by the original single reservoir but even tho he said it was great it would require much testing for the local transport department to allow it and so said just fit an OEM reservoir to the MC so I fitted a Volvo 240 reservoir. Makes for a slight nuisance to top up but is ADR compliant.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍
This fellow just wants brakes while He rolls His car about..
in His yard... NOW....
Not on the road....
Not a permanent fixture...
If He had a VW dual reservoir He could have just sat it above the twin master cylinder...
LEE
psimitar wrote:I was discussing this with my engineer when he came to blue plate my seatbelts and he said that unless you are using an OEM manufactured part then it is not ADR compliant.
Also, just using a t-piece to make the single reservoir feed both circuits is non-compliant as for dual circuit the reservoir must have segmented reservoir for the event of a major fluid leak in one circuit.
I had even made an alloy reservoir that mounted directly into the MC and was fed by the original single reservoir but even tho he said it was great it would require much testing for the local transport department to allow it and so said just fit an OEM reservoir to the MC so I fitted a Volvo 240 reservoir. Makes for a slight nuisance to top up but is ADR compliant.
- Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY---
68AutoBug wrote:This fellow just wants brakes while He rolls His car about..
in His yard... NOW....
Not on the road....
Not a permanent fixture...
If He had a VW dual reservoir He could have just sat it above the twin master cylinder...
LEE
not what the original post sounded like to me
❓madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍
some clarification then.
yes we want to get it rolling so we will do something temporary.
Yes we want a permanent fix based around OEM parts which is why I included the link to the kombi remote reservoir as an example of what we are trying to achieve.
Yes the vehicle will need to be inspected...once, and in WA. So the Golf reservoir will most likely get us through that step, but I am still investigating the ideal fix which is an OEM reservoir ( like Kombi ) on top of the master cylinder with a single feed from the original reservoir in the stock location.
So the original question is still valid:
"does anyone know what remote reservoir will fit on a standard-beetle dual circuit mastercylinder? "
thanks.
Uber Kafer wrote:some clarification then.
yes we want to get it rolling so we will do something temporary.
Yes we want a permanent fix based around OEM parts which is why I included the link to the kombi remote reservoir as an example of what we are trying to achieve.
Yes the vehicle will need to be inspected...once, and in WA. So the Golf reservoir will most likely get us through that step, but I am still investigating the ideal fix which is an OEM reservoir ( like Kombi ) on top of the master cylinder with a single feed from the original reservoir in the stock location.
So the original question is still valid:
"does anyone know what remote reservoir will fit on a standard-beetle dual circuit mastercylinder? "
thanks.
When you say ' remote reservoir " to fit onto a dual circuit MC you confuse me as later Beetle use a remote reservoir for dual circuit MC's.
If however you just mean an OEM reservoir that fits directly into a Beetle dual circuit MC then that'll be the Volvo 240. Also, I know of people who have used part of a vac bleeder kit to replace the reservoir cap with the vac bleeder item that has a small bore pipe coming out the top of it that then connects to the original single circuit reservoir. Again, you would have to discuss with your local engineer to see if this is acceptable
😉
Just to get it rolling the volvo 240 reservoir would be a good starting point too
🙂madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍
psimitar wrote:Just to get it rolling the volvo 240 reservoir would be a good starting point too 🙂
x2
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Does anyone else know of one of these:
http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/brake-fluid-reservoir-for-servo-master-cylinder-j11250.html
call them what you like, that will fit on the beetle dual circuit master cylinder. Preferably a VW part, or made by ATE, or other OEM.
Thats the only info I'm after.
thanks.
Spacing the same but grommets different, although that can be sorted as well as there a different ones all through different model and year VW's
The diameter of the spigots look too small for a Beetle MC compared to the size of the reservoir. I have seen this exact same thing in USA and UK for Beetles and again I said to my engineer about it and again he said that as it's aftermarket and not OEM then getting it passed under the ADR may take a lot of work.
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍
hellbugged wrote:Spacing the same but grommets different, although that can be sorted as well as there a different ones all through different model and year VW's
Thanks, I think I will just buy one, its only $20, then see if I can get OEM grommets to fit.
Otherwise we might have worked out a way to make the superbeetle dual reservoir to fit, hidden behind and accessed through, the round access flap on the left side of the spare wheel well.
Vehicle inspectors in WA tend to be a bit more pragmatic about old cars, so we can only try.
I have the dual circuit resivoir in the stock location on an early beetle
I'm playing master cylinders at the moment and will grab some pics of various grommets for you
68AutoBug wrote:I don't know what hose You would use to join them up...
Joel said He just used some sort of common hose to join the pipes and had no problems with it..
even a good quality rubber hose [fuel] or even the clear type hose may work... [works when doing the brakes]
I'd use the correct blue hose where possible.
I have no idea what sort of hose that was I used, some sort of rubber fuel or small coolant hose.
I backed out of the shed and saw a puddle of brake fluid so just used whatever I had laying around at the time to get to work that day.
That was 12 years ago and it's still there
🤪,
out of sight out of mind.
Got a new master cylinder here to go in, I'll be finally replacing it properly.
Proper hose is the blue cloth outer sheath stuff. It's expensive but still available. Trouble is it's too large a bore size for the single reservoir outlet 🙁
Fine if you hide the dual reservoir tho 🙂
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍
yep, got some blue hose already. Bought a couple of metres a few months ago. Might have been from Just Kampers.
Would help if someone has experimented with grommets, that would be good info.
thanks.
What your trying won't work with anything VW make, ie master cyl.s have incompatable diameters between the grommets available, the hole in the m/c and the diameter of the tubes on the type 2 remote res.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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Hi
I had a Empi "Volvo" one my bug, they fit on a stock Beetle master cylinder, I got rid of it as they are a pain to fill but maybe you you could use one and have the stock single circuit one feeding into it.
Or you might be better off doing what Damo did and fitting a late reservoir in the stock location.
Steve
I ended up fitting these monsters and below is the Volvo one
Oh, i just remembered. I saw some guy who got a second original metal single reservoir and placed them next to each other in the original position.
He went as far as nipping the lip off the top of each reservoir and welding them together so that the actual reservoir bodies had no gap between them. 🙂
Looked much nicer in smooth black gloss than white/opaque plastic 😉
madness is in the eye of the beholder 👍
