engine advice

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 28 Nov 2012, 1:23 pm

#933322

Hey all
the time has come for an new engine for our beetle.
I put in a second hand 1200 to get us by last year but its very sad and we plan on having our bug long term.
I would like to go 1500 or 1600

any suggestions/experiences with suppliers?

cheers

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gordysbeetle Seriously Crusin Dubber

125 posts · joined Jun 2011 · 28 Nov 2012, 5:39 pm

#933368

Talk to rod penrose he has everything you need. And his price is good.

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 28 Nov 2012, 6:51 pm

#933382

a nice 1600 would be the same price as a 1500 but im not sure if rod dose engines this small 😂

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sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 29 Nov 2012, 8:01 am

#933443

yeah checked his site doesn't seem he does, but best to ask i guess.

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Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 29 Nov 2012, 8:36 pm

#933529

Stan Pobjoy, http://www.stanpobjoy.com.au/

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 Nov 2012, 8:43 pm

#933534

Can you still get the new Mexican motors??

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sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 1 Dec 2012, 10:37 am

#933748

i will check out
thanks

p.s love sig

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 1 Dec 2012, 11:54 am

#933756

just import a 1600 motor from OS....heaps cheaper than paying for one here.👍

colin Fahrvergnugen

984 posts · joined Mar 2007 · 2 Dec 2012, 6:58 pm

#933941

sgetty wrote:yeah checked his site doesn't seem he does, but best to ask i guess.

Ring Rod, i,m sure he will get you what ever you need.
A nice 1776 would be cool.👍

Cheers Col

sikras Seriously Crusin Dubber

106 posts · joined Feb 2011 · 8 Dec 2012, 10:16 pm

#934890

Who would you recommend from OS ?

Craig Torrens wrote:just import a 1600 motor from OS....heaps cheaper than paying for one here.👍

69bug Officially Full-On Dubber

300 posts · joined Jan 2012 · 9 Dec 2012, 11:22 am

#934954

^

1969 1500

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 9 Dec 2012, 12:27 pm

#934958

not gex or bergmann. very bad reps for both

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empi Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,131 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 9 Dec 2012, 3:09 pm

#934970

I have both and they seem fine. have you ever had experience with either Barls?

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bugmaniaar Officially Full-On Dubber

295 posts · joined Jun 2011 · 9 Dec 2012, 4:19 pm

#934977

Howz about
CBB in Penrith
Our reco 1600TP we got for our 63 beetle is a little ripper..👍

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 9 Dec 2012, 4:22 pm

#934978

you must of been one of the lucky ones there on both companies from what ive seen from both.
have a search on both the samba and shoptalk about them and make your own mind up about them.
i built my last recoed 1600 with the old mans help over a weekend.

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 9 Dec 2012, 5:54 pm

#934992

Agreed, GEX is known world wide as selling the shittiest excuses for engines.

Engines from them that give no problems are just ones they bought built by someone else and slapped their stickers on.

THere are threads full of horror stories and pics of the kind of crap GEX does like engines with holes smashed in the case from a thrown rod filled in with JB weld and using booker rod from the hardware store as head studs.....

Overseas is a long way to go for warranty problems.
especially when there is still good engine builders in Aus and those new Mexi crate motors are cheaper than a full rebuild.

I would personally go a factory crate engine.
Everything is brand new and not a 40 year old case etc

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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 · 9 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

#935023

Craig Torrens wrote:just import a 1600 motor from OS....heaps cheaper than paying for one here.👍

yep great idea, I agreed years ago
did that years ago all was good, great price heaps of hp etc.. but..
The cracked case was NOT on the order sheet.. septic A holes 😬
listen up.. fook OS BS
been there done that and absolutely NO NIL NOTHING recourse.. kiss goodbye your hard earned..
moving on..
get an Aussie built one 👍
matty b in Qld, Wayne penrose, stan Pobjoy, pete Richards in nsw n others in Australia WILL have guarantees unlike OS BS I have experienced first hand
ask around here n there before you put the reddies on the table
pm peeps to keep it to yourself, it's all good
there's more to life than saving 5 cents 😍

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69bug Officially Full-On Dubber

300 posts · joined Jan 2012 · 9 Dec 2012, 8:30 pm

#935036

How does one get their mitts on a Mexican exchange motor?

1969 1500

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 13 Dec 2012, 8:04 am

#935436

great input and advice here thanks everyone... 🙂

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8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 13 Dec 2012, 8:30 am

#935440

This was from a cheap rebuilt US engine. The guy was real happy with all the money he saved. It didn't even turn a wheel. Siezed before he could tune the carbs....the pic shows the rocker gear ....sand blasted without disassembly , and of course full of grit !!!!!

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 19 Dec 2012, 1:33 pm

#936238

http://www.piersideparts.net/veedub/X-engines.html

Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 19 Dec 2012, 8:09 pm

#936295

Craig Torrens wrote:http://www.piersideparts.net/veedub/X-engines.html

Interesting, I don't see any warranty info on that link. I suppose it doesn't matter, it's not like you'd send it back to the US for a claim.

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 21 Dec 2012, 2:48 pm

#936526

Be my luck to buy a lemon from OS! So at this stage still striping the 1200 to see how bad it is, If it is too rooted then we will take the bug off the road and save...

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SunshineKarmann Casual Dubber

34 posts · joined Dec 2008 · 21 Dec 2012, 10:09 pm

#936563

Nice one mate. Once you start thinking 1776 then 1835 and 1916 are not that unrealistic. Not a great more in $'s when comparing the step up in HP. It is only once you start changing up the crank to a stroker that the $'s start to kick in. It is all the other bits and pieces, and case work, that cost!

Really depends on what you are after, reliability or a weekender that you can whip the living day lights out of! I prefer the latter 😎

SunshineKarmann Casual Dubber

34 posts · joined Dec 2008 · 21 Dec 2012, 10:18 pm

#936566

By the way, stay away from crate motors IMHO. I have read plenty about warranties, or lack thereof, and questionable components leading to early retirement. If you plan it right, you can buy all you need, selecting decent bits, from the states for a VERY reasonable cost (and cheaper than here in Oz, including shipping). Also heaps more to choose from. Don't get me wrong, I support Aussie sellers as well! The only handbrake can be hitting the $1000 threshold but if you are OCD like me, then you can work out the best way to arrange your goods to scrape in under every time (shipping does not count toward the $1000 threshold)

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 26 Dec 2012, 1:18 pm

#937025

Split the case today! Beer and tame impala helped.
Here is what i found!
No wonder the little bugger sounded terrible when this happened..

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Gracey Wolfsburg Wizard

511 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 26 Dec 2012, 6:58 pm

#937065

Hmmmm, I could be wrong but I think it's broken!!! Ah well, at least now you know what you've got.

Looks like a good excuse to upgrade.

sgetty Fahrvergnugen

994 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 29 Dec 2012, 1:00 pm

#937389

Yeah rego just run out, so has a cover over it in in the shed now, could be a year or two till i save up, things are tight. 🙁 arhh well

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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 · 30 Dec 2012, 10:59 am

#937483

Ah the old snapped crank gag.

Reminds of the story from one of the old timers on STF that worked at a dealership, an old girl brought her 59 bug into the dealership complaining its using alot of oil.
they found the crank had cracked and told her she needed an engine rebuild.
She said I can't afford that, just put it back together and she'll keep adding oil as it needs it 🤪🤪

SunshineKarmann wrote:By the way, stay away from crate motors IMHO. I have read plenty about warranties, or lack thereof, and questionable components leading to early retirement.

Interesting, are you talking about the Mexican VW factory engines?

When I asked Micks about them he speaks highly of them and has sold a heap of them with only one so far had a bearing fail and was replaced under warranty.

13bwagon Officially Full-On Dubber

316 posts · joined Nov 2006 · 30 Dec 2012, 6:57 pm

#937536

oh thats looks nice 🙂
you have a welder right ????

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