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oil gasket wrong way around?
HEL-70Y - May 8th, 2006 at 07:16 AM

Hey all

I am leaking oil out of my oil breather,my guess is that i have my metal oil gasket the wrong way around. See my crappy image below to see which way i have the gasket.i have the teeth point up and facing towards where you pour the oil in.

Is this the reason why i am leaking out of my breather?

which way should it be?

Sez


HEL-70Y - May 8th, 2006 at 07:20 AM

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bond - May 8th, 2006 at 08:45 AM

if its the one under the gen/alt stand i thought it went face down with the venting toward the flywheel...

fly _____ pully
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if thats what you meant? i would also permatex this gasket
something chronic

nick

[ Edited on 7-5-2006 by bond ]


HEL-70Y - May 8th, 2006 at 09:01 AM

sorry my mistake, that is the way that i currently have it. Any idea why i am leaking oil from the breather?


Bizarre - May 8th, 2006 at 12:37 PM

I "thought" it was
1) down and to the right (((
or
2) up and to the left )))

That way you are catching against the spin of the crank, and and spray/droplets will hit the plate and fall back down.

If the plate is towards the pulleys, there is clean sight for droplets to be thrown out.

I cant find the sight, old volks home, old bug???.... some thing old and it has exploded pictures
I have it at home - will post later unless some knows what i am talking about.

BTW

Yes - this will cause the problem, but it should have ALWAYS caused a problem.
If you have JUST developed the problem, it sounds more case pressure related.
As it is a 1916, is there any other case venting??

Are you running any breather??
Where is the breather as shown in you pic hooked up now??

Are you running dual carbs??

Barry


68AutoBug - May 8th, 2006 at 12:48 PM

As stated above, this should have happened as soon as You put the gasket in the incorrect way.....
I think every VW manual shows which way to place it...
and I use permatex on all gaskets... except exhaust..

If You are running a large engine and no extra breathers for the crankcase..... this is the problem.....

the gasket concerned should have the vents downwards
and the curved side ( should be on the fuel pump side...

Lee


Joel - May 8th, 2006 at 06:49 PM

it seems to be a topic always up for debate
i;ve built a few engines and experimented with it in different directions upside etc and the best postion ive found for it is like this:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/Vbug74/oildeflector.jpg

have a look also how much oil is coming up the breather hose and possible entering the air cleaner
73 on upright motors have a larger diameter breather hose so i guess vw realised the old half inch jobby was to small

Joel


HEL-70Y - May 9th, 2006 at 03:55 AM

Thanks guys,
I am running twin kadrons on my 1916 and i have always had the problem since i have had my engine rebuilt. My breather is in the alternator stand, if you look in the below its the little silver pipe thingo right next to my oil cap (hasnt got breather on it yet at that stage), and i use ultra gray/blue for all my gaskets.

Barry i was thinking the same thing which you explained, thanks for confirming it. i assumed that i should have it the opposite way so that when i pour oil in that it flows easily down, but i guess it throws it just as easily back up that way.

Thanks all, looks like ill be pullin her apart when i get a chance so she can ramain nice and shiny without having to clean up the oil all the time


hellbugged - May 9th, 2006 at 06:22 AM

do you have a breather/line from your aircleaner to the oil filler.

if you don't like loosing oil from around the case, you should get one (pressurisation)

just like the stock set up

no need to clean up the motor, or pull it out as mentioned above.

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=51452#pid481115 

[ Edited on 8-5-06 by dumone ]


Bizarre - May 9th, 2006 at 07:53 AM

Sez

Personally i think thoses after market fillers have WAY too small a breather hole.

I would get a 2nd hole drilled and tapped in the side - or, i cant see if you have a stock fuel pump. If you dont, put a breather in the block off plate.

And yes, feed it back into the carbs. Works much better


HEL-70Y - May 9th, 2006 at 08:26 AM

thanks for the link.

i do not have a line connecting my oil filler to the air filter, and i am running an electric fuel pump.

So from my understanding i should get rid of the little air cleaner that i stuck on the breather hole in the oil filler and connect a hose from there to both of my carbi's using a t-piece. Is this right? and if i do this will i need to flip the gasket around still?


Bizarre - May 9th, 2006 at 09:15 AM

Yes - i would try that first. I still reckon that hole would be too small.

The pic is what i did with my 1776

And yes - i would still flip the thing round. That will be throwing up bigger lums of oil than a breather should have to cope with