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 Culo
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| posted on December 8th, 2016 at 05:57 PM |
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Rain gutter replacement question
Hi
I need to replace the rain gutters on my 1960 bug has anyone done this and would advice tips and photos cou
D you share with me to enable me to do this?
Thanks heaps
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 helbus
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| posted on December 8th, 2016 at 09:39 PM |
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Hi Culo,
The rain gutters are not as easy as just replacing. They are made up of a pressed combination of the side panel and the roof panel combined. This is
of course done at the assembly line. The only way would be to cut that area out and fabricate new inner and outer gutter sections that are made out of
the roof and side panel, curved and shaped, then weld in. The other option is to cut those sections out of another Beetle.
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| posted on December 9th, 2016 at 06:18 AM |
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If you have rust in the rain gutter I think you may need a new body as there will be rust in other places
very difficult job as per above
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| posted on December 9th, 2016 at 08:33 AM |
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Over 50 years ago, when working as a panelbeater at a VW dealer, I replaced quite a few of those bastards of things.  We called them "Banana Rails", and they went from just above the front
quarter window to the engine lid opening. They were welded to the inner and outer rear quarter panel, and at the front, behind the windscreen pillar.
Not the most pleasant job, but if done correctly, made for a very good repair. It was common to need 1 or sometimes 2 of these rails when fitting a
new turret, after a roll-over, as they could get 'ground away' from sliding along the road! The partially-formed drip rail was hammered over the
new turret rail...I've still got my 'special hammer' that did a perfect job on the drip rails. If done properly it was virtually impossible to
'pick' the repair. 
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on December 9th, 2016 at 05:58 PM |
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Would cutting the roof off and welding a new one on be possible?
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helbus
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| posted on December 9th, 2016 at 06:54 PM |
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The roof is part of the front and rear window openings. It is all one outer panel from the rear of the bonnet to the front of the engine lid. Then
there is all the inner panels, side panels and pillars. A roof is really hard to replace.
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| posted on December 10th, 2016 at 05:59 PM |
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as said before you have to have MORE rust elsewhere
have a GOOD look
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| posted on January 24th, 2017 at 05:43 PM |
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I've done the repair and it's very time consuming to do properly. You'll need an injection nozzle to shove up the roof channel from the engine bay
and with the headliner out you can inject into the inside of the inner roof channel. Do it a few times over a good few days in warm weather so the
rust cure can dry out properly.
Then to repair the channel is dependant on how far the rust has eaten into the roof skin. A roof cut from the same vintage Beetle is the easiest way
to repair but it must be the same year because as the variatons occurred to the windows etc then the curvature of the roofs swage line changed too. So
a later roof will have less of a radius to it compared to an earlier model.
Making repair pieces isn't easy as the channel swage area curves in 2 planes and you then have to make a curved bend for the drip rail lip. So for a
beginner I'd try and find a roof cut 
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| posted on January 25th, 2017 at 07:04 AM |
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Ive seen people do roof swaps, cut the body through the pillars and weld another roof on
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| posted on January 25th, 2017 at 05:56 PM |
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Have you check for RUST in the rest of the car
if the roof has gone then other areas will be also GONE
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